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View Poll Results: Should drivers be mandated to remain in their regular car in the enduros?
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Old 14 Oct 2009, 03:56 (Ref:2560991)   #1
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Splitting main game drivers for the enduros (Now With Poll)

The possibility of the mandating main game drivers to remain in their regular car is detailed Here again.

Does it make sense to keep them in the same car, or separate them?

Given the number of 'B' and 'C' cars run in the enduros, while the 'A' car is rested in the shed, it might make sense to try to get 29 + friends cars with their regular pilots to at least make the practice and qualifying show a real contest...

Would it increase the number of main game teams assisting their Fujitsu cousins, to fertilise the driver pool for themselves?

Wins or round? Or Not... Answers in the poll I suppose, but commentary also welcome!
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Old 14 Oct 2009, 05:13 (Ref:2561008)   #2
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Look i see no issue in this, It's a 50/50 gamble. If it works both regular drivers get 300 points, if it goes belly up then it is a major championship dent. Take this year for example if Lowndes and Whincup crashed out then Davidson and Tander would be 1-2 in the chamionship at present. I say let them do what they want, even if they pair their regulars in the cars it still opens two spots up for new blood in the spare car.
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Old 14 Oct 2009, 06:21 (Ref:2561035)   #3
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remove championship status from the enduros, therefore it doesn't matter
I still have a problem with a championship runner potentially losing points as a result of their co driver stuffing up in his or her car. And it is irrelevant if the co driver is a championship regular, someone else could still negatively (or even positively) affect your championship.

Just let em go at it. No need to change dates etc. Rugby league does something similar come state of origin.
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Old 14 Oct 2009, 06:22 (Ref:2561036)   #4
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It's interesting.

But the tradition is for teams to have the choice, and it's a good one.

An international can join a gun driver to win, or two established drivers can add to their tally... it's good variety.
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Voted for them to remain in their "usual" cars, but the "enduro's" have to revert back to stand alone events IMO.
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Old 14 Oct 2009, 09:14 (Ref:2561102)   #6
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I say no.

I'd much rather see the best drivers pair up to get the ultimate out of the car over the day. 3-5 cars fighting it out at a top level pace for the whole day is far more enjoyable than watching 10 mediocre cars fight it out.

This year's Bathurst was one of the closest in terms of numbers of cars in the hunt at full pace, and it's probably the most pairings of regular drivers ever.

Making them split up just further increases the influence of the championship on Bathurst, and I'd rather see it return to a standalone event. In either case, championship round or not, the best entertainment and racing can only come from gun pairings.
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If we wish to improve the depth of talent in motorsport in this country, one way to achieve this is for the premier category to call upon other classes of racing to provide that talent.

Not just paydrivers and stuff, but genuine talent shining through, risks being taken, good drivers being coveted and feted...

Conceptually the mandating of a driver to his/her main game car opens up opportunities that dont really exist. Any team that says their #2 cars can win is not being honest with itself... with a few notable exceptions... but generally this is not the case....
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As an interesting aside. Assuming this rule was in for last weekends Bathurst, how do you think 888 and HRT would have gone with drivers?

Would Thompson and Simonsen still get a gig?
And what about Baird?
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As an interesting aside. Assuming this rule was in for last weekends Bathurst, how do you think 888 and HRT would have gone with drivers?

Would Thompson and Simonsen still get a gig?
And what about Baird?
Mr Simonsen would likely have, Mr Thompson perhaps not...

Not sure about Mr Baird...
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Mr Baird seems to be a gun in anything but the V8's...
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As an interesting aside. Assuming this rule was in for last weekends Bathurst, how do you think 888 and HRT would have gone with drivers?
Going on pace and stratagy it would have been a GRM 1-2
Wonder if Gary has signed up his enduro drivers for next year?




I don't know about this poll.

I like see seeing top line fulltime drivers paired up.

but it would mean talent over money, goodbye pay drivers.
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Old 14 Oct 2009, 12:01 (Ref:2561208)   #12
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Absolutely yes yes yes.

I would much rather see more competitive cars in the enduro races. I also think that it would give more non-regular and/or Fujitsu series drivers a real chance to get up there and share in some of the limelight.

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Old 14 Oct 2009, 22:16 (Ref:2561595)   #13
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My preference is for two "guns" in a car - the cars with two guns are going to race harder all day. You can look at #25 this year as a case in point - a good, regular steerer plus someone who is new to it. Quite a difference in pace.

It is an interesting question isn't it? Do we want a hard, close race or do we want to feel all warm & fuzzy about upcoming drivers but the race itself is not as good?

If drivers are only allowed in their regular cars then it does reinforce Bathurst being just another round of the series too (although a very important one).

In my view it is better to let teams do their own thing - their are enough restrictions all ready I think.
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I say yes. Personally I feel dudded not seeing the top echelon drivers up against each other at the greatest track in the known universe. Imagine the last 20 laps of this years race with all the regulars in their respective cars still on track at the time. Would have been a hell of a finish then. Would love to have seen Garth going head to head with Will, Rick vs Todd, Craig vs Jamie etc etc. The Sprint Gas team showed that keeping the top drivers split doesn't harm a team and can be the opposite. The way it is now you have half the field as genuine contenders and the other half making up the numbers.
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Just let em go at it. No need to change dates etc. Rugby league does something similar come state of origin.
Agreed. It is a farce that the event has been turned into another championship round.
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