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Old 27 Nov 2015, 02:31 (Ref:3593562)   #31
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Nevermind the engines, they're (relatively) easy to balance compared to those black round things on the wheels. At the moment the only feasible solution I can see is to put all the cars on the Speckooks because the performance difference with the custom SGT tyres is huge and possibly too large to be sorted by a combination of power/aero/etc. without spiralling knock-on effects. That won't go down well with the GT500 teams though.

At least the tyre issue is being openly acknowledged now, it's been the elephant in the room for too long.
I think the article confirms theres still enthusiasm for a joint race even though dtm are trying to be cheap.
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Old 27 Nov 2015, 06:59 (Ref:3593598)   #32
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Super GT don't need DTM. Super GT should just go their own way. SGT have everything DTM don't have at the moment, exciting racing big grids full of variety and a good mix of factory and privateers. Don't fix what ain't broke.

If DTM aren't ready then Super GT shouldn't suffer because the Germans have dropped the ball.
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Old 27 Nov 2015, 07:56 (Ref:3593604)   #33
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I think the article confirms theres still enthusiasm for a joint race even though dtm are trying to be cheap.
So they should be, but you've highlighted the sticking point right there. ITR want to have their (minimised expenditure) cake and eat it (not being embarrassed by the GT500s).

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Super GT don't need DTM. Super GT should just go their own way. SGT have everything DTM don't have at the moment, exciting racing big grids full of variety and a good mix of factory and privateers. Don't fix what ain't broke.

If DTM aren't ready then Super GT shouldn't suffer because the Germans have dropped the ball.
The adoption of DTM regs hasn't saved all that much money - complications from the tub designs I think? - but JAF have made them work so you're right that DTM isn't necessary for SGT. However, JAF wants to take GT500 outside Japan (e.g. their polite enquiries about entering LM) and the teams are eager to race internationally as well. In this situation the Japanese will probably concede more than the Germans to make sure these joint races go ahead.
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Old 27 Nov 2015, 08:17 (Ref:3593608)   #34
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René de Boer says that German manufacturers think that there is more suitable field (F1, WEC) than DTM to do technology competition (Tire, Engine etc) in the Japanese Autosport magazine.
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Thanks for that JS.

Maybe they should have considered that before selling their regs (and the prospect of joint races) to JAF....
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Old 27 Nov 2015, 09:31 (Ref:3593619)   #36
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From Autosport Web :
Heikki Kovalainen wants to continue to race again at Super GT next year.
But so far no any further details yet (such as his next team etc)

http://as-web.jp/news/info.php?c_id=2&no=69784

PS : I'm not really good at Japanese, only translate it at Google
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Old 27 Nov 2015, 11:12 (Ref:3593642)   #37
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Good Job JS, and you too @J Jay

Rene de Boer was right , They should be considered that as well.

Speaking about DTM, DTM seem to be similar race format as SUPER FORMULA . Both are use 2.0 L4 turbo engine, despite the different body chassis .

I wonder GTA considered SUPER FORMULA expand to worldwide similar to SUPER GT will be better .
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Good Job JS, and you too @J Jay

Rene de Boer was right , They should be considered that as well.

Speaking about DTM, DTM seem to be similar race format as SUPER FORMULA . Both are use 2.0 L4 turbo engine, despite the different body chassis .

I wonder GTA considered SUPER FORMULA expand to worldwide similar to SUPER GT will be better .
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Thx for your opinion, Then state the difference between DTM and SUPER FORMULA .
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I wonder GTA considered SUPER FORMULA expand to worldwide similar to SUPER GT will be better .
I would compare Super Formula to IndyCar. Comparing DTM to Super Formula is like comparing apples to oranges.
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May be they are more suitable in the German's eyes, but spec competition isnt near as good as tech competition in a high profile series like Super GT. Class 1 has potential to be huge if done right. ITR know this but they don't seemingly want to put more effort into the rules and cars than they already have.
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I would compare Super Formula to IndyCar. Comparing DTM to Super Formula is like comparing apples to oranges.
Then how about comparing DTM and LMP1???
If they want to do technology competition then just compare to LMP1 , But I confirm that this is the different things , so they only can compare is the speed and the lap times .

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DTM cars won't even catch LMP1 cars that much.

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May be they are more suitable in the German's eyes, but spec competition isnt near as good as tech competition in a high profile series like Super GT. Class 1 has potential to be huge if done right. ITR know this but they don't seemingly want to put more effort into the rules and cars than they already have.
Well, it would be better if they should just close DTM instead of being cheapskates every year when it comes to promotion and tech competition.
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DTM cars won't even catch LMP1 cars that much.
Red Bull Ring is the only track that is visited by both LMP and DTM cars. Last year (last time they were both on dry weekends), DTM cars could barely match LMP2 times.
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