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Old 22 Nov 2014, 20:48 (Ref:3477632)   #26
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Knowing Red Bull they will bend the rules untill they are at the point where they snap.......
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Old 22 Nov 2014, 20:52 (Ref:3477635)   #27
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RB excluded from qualifying, start from the back of the grid provided they can stiffen the problem areas of the wings overnight.
I guess no podium chance for Ricciardo...
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Old 22 Nov 2014, 20:59 (Ref:3477636)   #28
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Old 22 Nov 2014, 22:57 (Ref:3477661)   #29
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Maybe they will have a stiffer one by the morning ?
Lucky them. We'd all like that...
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Old 22 Nov 2014, 23:54 (Ref:3477669)   #30
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There's not a huge difference in pit lane vs back of the grid start, just a few positions at the start. But if starting from pit lane could they both now change the engine and gearbox so they could run full tit for the race? I doubt they would, especially for Vettel since he already had the change recently.

Does kind of make the Bottas/Vettel/Alonso battle for 4th in points a bit of a letdown, there's no way Bottas will be caught so it's just a decider of seeing if Vettel can catch Alonso in the race. Ferrari's pace here is pretty slow.

As for Caterham... Will Stevens? Really? Gosh he must have some big financial backing behind him. I could probably list 100 drivers I'd put in the car before him.
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Old 23 Nov 2014, 02:26 (Ref:3477693)   #31
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Old 23 Nov 2014, 04:47 (Ref:3477718)   #32
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If they have the spares, I would change everything and start one or both from pit lane on different strategies. See if they can get one of their cars into 3rd place.

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Old 23 Nov 2014, 07:48 (Ref:3477741)   #33
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There's not a huge difference in pit lane vs back of the grid start, just a few positions at the start. But if starting from pit lane could they both now change the engine and gearbox so they could run full tit for the race? I doubt they would, especially for Vettel since he already had the change recently.

Does kind of make the Bottas/Vettel/Alonso battle for 4th in points a bit of a letdown, there's no way Bottas will be caught so it's just a decider of seeing if Vettel can catch Alonso in the race. Ferrari's pace here is pretty slow.

As for Caterham... Will Stevens? Really? Gosh he must have some big financial backing behind him. I could probably list 100 drivers I'd put in the car before him.
Ooh go on then, list away...

The guy has won races and been a general front runner in both FR 2.0 and 3.5.

He deserves a chance and has got in with the job of chipping away at bringing his times down with relish.

He hadn't blotted his copybook by slamming into the barriers either which says a lot!
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Old 23 Nov 2014, 09:27 (Ref:3477755)   #34
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Agree. give the guy a chance he has helped get caterham on the grid so stop being a pain, would you rather they were not there
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Ooh go on then, list away...

The guy has won races and been a general front runner in both FR 2.0 and 3.5.

He deserves a chance and has got in with the job of chipping away at bringing his times down with relish.

He hadn't blotted his copybook by slamming into the barriers either which says a lot!
Hehe not sure if I could quite manage 100, but I think Lotterer showed with just a qualifying session that you don't have to have raced single seaters for a while to be fast. There's probably almost a dozen Indycar drivers with so much more experience that could do the job, even if they are in different cars and trakcs. Same with with Formula E, there's several in Gp2, WEC,
a few in 3.5, also several recent ex-GP2 fellas/F1 test drivers that aren't doing much. How about the GP2 commentator? :P
Not sure about GP3... probably just Alex Lynn. The rest - Stoneman and Stanaway need a bit more time.

To be honest I haven't watch all the 3.5 races this year, since they're not televised here, so I don't know enough about Will. I'm not against giving Will a chance, good for him. I'm just thinking from a spectators point of view, and if this was the teams last race under their current banner, I personally would have gone for someone more exciting than a fella that's won a grand total of 5 car races in his entire life.

First instance, their own reserve driver Robin Frijns...
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Agree. give the guy a chance he has helped get caterham on the grid so stop being a pain, would you rather they were not there
this, he'd been working with the team all year and has a big bag of money. best case scenario win.
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Old 23 Nov 2014, 12:53 (Ref:3477788)   #37
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We, internet posters, may have the time to kill to knock about this perfect driver or the other perfect driver for the seat. These guys don't have the luxury for that. They got to hire to someone pronto, someone capable of paying the bills and that someone is Stevens. They didn't pick Stevens just for the giggles let's put it that way.
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Old 23 Nov 2014, 13:04 (Ref:3477792)   #38
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Old 23 Nov 2014, 13:28 (Ref:3477795)   #39
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superb jev/vergne battle!

also i was not aware of a rule, even a playground one that says that you must capitulate to alonso even if you're racing him for track position.
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Old 23 Nov 2014, 13:30 (Ref:3477796)   #40
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Old 23 Nov 2014, 13:34 (Ref:3477798)   #41
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That's known as "the Nelson Piquet rule."
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Old 23 Nov 2014, 13:42 (Ref:3477800)   #42
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superb jev/vergne battle!

also i was not aware of a rule, even a playground one that says that you must capitulate to alonso even if you're racing him for track position.
I thought JEV was Vergne! Have RBR cloned him? Think one of them was RIC?

Agree though, it was a great battle.
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What a total watse of my time.

Lap 19 and already fallen asleep

Time to go shopping.

No wonder they came up with double points, as otherwise all you would be left talking about is a dullard race track, hundreds of media who have wasted theri and our time going there to see the winner of the world time trial champioships crowned.

Pathetic sport sorry.
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Agree though, it was a great battle.
lol, sorry, only got 3 braincells on duty and 2 of them are watching the race
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There we go - Button and Alonso.
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That was good stuff, with Alonso eventually getting the better of Button.
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