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View Poll Results: Who gets Webber's seat.
Bjorn Wirdheim - appears to be a quality pilot, but do JAG need 2 youngsters. 6 9.23%
Coulthard - quality veteran, would he be motivated with what is essentially a demotion 30 46.15%
Villeneuve - former WDC, but could be another Irvine. 3 4.62%
Heidfeld - young, fast and experienced. Question whether he is aggressive enough to be a No.1 8 12.31%
A. Davidson - similiar situation as Wirdheim. 6 9.23%
Other - Please specify 12 18.46%
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Old 23 Mar 2004, 21:43 (Ref:917112)   #1
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Who gets Webber's seat?

It would look as if BAR will meet Button's performance clauses leaving Webber the No1 choice for williams.
As much as I would like him to stay at JAGUAR, Webber would be wise to take the seat at Williams left by Montoya.
If this does come to fruition who do you think would be a good choice to take Webber's seat at JAG?
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Old 23 Mar 2004, 23:29 (Ref:917215)   #2
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had to vote for 'other' specifically Justin Wilson, dont forget Jag brought him from minardi last season, it seems IMO the only thing he did wrong was not have a big enough wallet to qualify him for the second seat this season
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Old 23 Mar 2004, 23:36 (Ref:917219)   #3
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Aaarghhh! I forgot about Wilson! Definitely a good option!
I personally haven't voted yet! Can't decide.
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A torrential afternoon practice session in Watkins Glen saw Villeneuve out-qualify everyone. By 11 seconds.Scheckter stated: "I scared myself rigid that day, I thought I had to be quickest. Then I saw Gilles's time and - I still don't really understand how it was possible. Eleven seconds !"
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Old 23 Mar 2004, 23:51 (Ref:917226)   #4
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I'd say Coultard...he knows how a top team should run and he may be able to show Jaguar where they are going wrong in some respects...Didn't vote for Jacques cause he'll be at Williams, Renault or Toyota!
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Doesn't it seem sad that drivers like Fisichella, Coultard, Barrichello, and Ralf all have secure seats in F1, despite having had race winning cars for many more seasons than Jacques, yet failing to chalk up as many wins as he (let alone a WDC) that it is Jacques who doesn't have a drive in F1??? Sad indeed.
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Old 24 Mar 2004, 04:17 (Ref:917394)   #5
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Mark Webber has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
Coultard and he do a top job to
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Old 24 Mar 2004, 04:40 (Ref:917399)   #6
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Id say Coultard is a shoe in. Wat about Ralf?

i hope whoever they get can motivate the team like Mark does.
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Old 24 Mar 2004, 04:55 (Ref:917406)   #7
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I'd actually say Wilson or Davidson. Davidson has plenty of testing miles under his belt, and I think Wilson did respectably enough last year to deserve another go. Personally, I'd like to see Webber stay and get a good team mate, build the team up. Webber & Bruni or Wilson @ Jag would be nice for next year.
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Old 24 Mar 2004, 05:51 (Ref:917430)   #8
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WEbber can stay as long as hel ikes, but unless Jag find a quadroupling of their budget somwhere, they are never going to be able to compete toe to toe with the big boys.

While he has done alot oftesting miles, is Davidson that good a racer? His outings in the Minardi were hardly flattering. Also, hes said that he wont become a pay driver, while i think Jab will be looking for somone who can bring some fundage with them.

Id like to see Wilson back, that boy has alot of talent, jsut needs the right chance.
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Old 24 Mar 2004, 06:37 (Ref:917441)   #9
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If (when!) mark leaves Jag they will be seriously bummed.
They'll be falling over themselves to sign someone well above average-but then so is everyone else.....
Their first port of call will be minardi and jordan -IF there is an obvious tallent there like mark or fernando

They must be really worried about the future
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Wirdheim. I hope.
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Old 24 Mar 2004, 10:42 (Ref:917669)   #11
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Umm, who would want it?
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Old 24 Mar 2004, 10:59 (Ref:917687)   #12
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I'd like to see Coulthard get the drive I think they need at least one mature experienced driver to keep building on the momentum they have gained since Mark joined. He also would be another good spokesman for Jaguar & I feel would fit the Jaguar image if he was willing to take the pay cut but really i don't see him as having too many other options elsewhere so he may take it. JV on the other hand is a very talented driver but I don't think he suits the Jaguar style & would be a bit of another Irvine.
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Old 24 Mar 2004, 11:07 (Ref:917698)   #13
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I opted for Coulthard although he's in the frame for a Toyota drive as well. I think Jaguar will need an experienced driver in the lineup and Coulthard will fit in quite nicely from a PR perspective too. Heidfeld has the driving ability but doesn't really have the PR advantages - can anyone remember an interview with Nick?

Villeneuve is not an option - I can't see him getting another F1 drive anywhere.

As an aside I thought Irvine did ok at Jag - at the time he was there the team changed boss every other week and the cars were complete disasters - due to major design flaws. Given the equipment he had Irvine did a good job.
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Old 24 Mar 2004, 11:27 (Ref:917708)   #14
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I'm convinced that Coulthard will get the Jag seat, it seems the most simple solution to me.

Montoya to McLaren, Coulthard to Jaguar, Webber to Williams.
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Coulthard would absolutely fit the bill. Klien has showed enough potential to make him likely to stay on for another year, and DC's corporate savvy, continued speed, development skill, and the advantage of being a British driver in what people see as a British team, would make him ideal.
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I opted for Coulthard although he's in the frame for a Toyota drive as well. I think Jaguar will need an experienced driver in the lineup and Coulthard will fit in quite nicely from a PR perspective too. Heidfeld has the driving ability but doesn't really have the PR advantages - can anyone remember an interview with Nick?
As an aside I thought Irvine did ok at Jag - at the time he was there the team changed boss every other week and the cars were complete disasters - due to major design flaws. Given the equipment he had Irvine did a good job.
I think DC would be the best choice as well. A good driver to help a developing team. I have a feeling Ralf will be at Toyota, personally I rate DC over Ralf though. Heidfeld may not be the most outgoing guy, but he is German. Germany being one of JAG's more desirable markets. He is a quality F1 pilot too, however is he good enough to be a No.1?
As for Irvine in the car he was good, but I remember hearing things about his lack of leadership at the shop. Something which Webber brings by the ton.
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Old 24 Mar 2004, 12:01 (Ref:917734)   #17
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iff webber does indeed move to williams and halfie is still there, i'd be more interested in seeing webber ***** slap half for that stunt he puuled in sepang this year.
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Justin Wilson, and if he can't get it then Anthony Davidson.
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DC? He'd just end up as another Irv, there for the money to finish his career
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Webber will be at Jag for 2005, thus the real questiuon is who will take his place in 2006.

I haven't a clue. Too many factors will come into play.
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It would appear that Jaguar are hoping that Klein will become No1 material within the year, that would leave them free to take a punt on an outside bet which is why I think they were looking at Townsend Bell, Sarah Kavanagh, etc etc as possible No2's with interesting commercial possibilities.

Personally I don't know if Klein is No1 material yet, maybe you guys know but I haven't seen him enough.

I can't see Jag paying DC or JV to come in and tell them the car needs improving! Which i think they're very likely to do, and walk away with big salaries for telling them something they know already.

If it were me there's no way I'd sign either of them, DC couldn't beat Hakkinen or Kimi and JV struggled with Button.

Maybe they could ask ron for a loan of Hamilton?
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Hamilton - hadn't thought of that...? He's going to be hot property for '05, that's for sure...maybe Jordan will use him to get Merc power...?
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DC - fits the merry go round well, perfect team player and dream PR fit for Jaguar.
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I don't think we will see Hamilton in an F1 drive until 2006 at the earliest. Euro F3 has become a two year program for many drivers and unless he storms it, I think Lewis will do 2 years there, with some McLaren testing in 2005.

Klein is not going to be team leader material for Jaguar in 2005, they need an old (ish) hand IMO.
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The rumours I hear is Klien is only at Jag until his money runs out, Webber will be at Williams next year, alongside one of their test drivers, but I'm not saying which one.
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