The Moto GP 2011 Thread - Page 3

jhansen · 11 Aug 2010, 17:37 (Ref:2743128)

Capirossi is close to a done deal at Pramac Ducati. Seems the Tech 3 and LCR links were only early rumors. I'm guessing they will keep Espargaro and dump Kallio. He's out qualififed Kallio all but once, and is only 3 points behind him despite one more DNF.

Tazz · 12 Aug 2010, 16:59 (Ref:2743625)

Capirex back where he belongs, on a Ducati

Can't wait for that to happen.

jhansen · 12 Aug 2010, 20:31 (Ref:2743754)

Rossi will make his announcement on Sunday after the race...

**Dani Filth** · 13 Aug 2010, 17:28 (Ref:2744211)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazz

Capirex back where he belongs, on a Ducati

Can't wait for that to happen.

actually .. I don't think there's a bike company in 2 wheels road racing that Capirex doesn't belong .. he has raced all of them

jhansen · 13 Aug 2010, 17:55 (Ref:2744228)

It was announced at the AMA riders meeting today that Laguna Seca is looking to add 125 and Moto 2 next year. It is being worked out with Dorna. Apparantly, it could mean moving the two US rounds closer together for traveling costs.

Selfishly I hope this is true of course.

Tazz · 13 Aug 2010, 18:08 (Ref:2744241)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dani Filth

actually .. I don't think there's a bike company in 2 wheels road racing that Capirex doesn't belong .. he has raced all of them

Yeah maybe, but that's where i want him to be. On a Duke

**ghinzani** · 15 Aug 2010, 10:59 (Ref:2744749)

Rule changes for this, next year and beyond:
http://www.racers-republic.com/motog...-moto3-engines

Tazz · 15 Aug 2010, 19:26 (Ref:2744878)

Finally, they made it public. Rossi to Ducati. yeeey

I'm not a fan of him, but if he can brings us a title or two, i won't mind.

jhansen · 15 Aug 2010, 20:45 (Ref:2744925)

Given how sorry the racing is, this will keep me interested next year. I'm very curious how Rossi will get on with the Duc.

**ghinzani** · 16 Aug 2010, 12:28 (Ref:2745183)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazz

Finally, they made it public. Rossi to Ducati. yeeey

I'm not a fan of him, but if he can brings us a title or two, i won't mind.

Another veiled dig at Lorenzo and indeed the Yamaha management by trying to take the credit for the M1's success and by inference diminishing Jorge's amazing results over the past three seasons.

Lets hope Ducati step up to the plate for him, or else he might be struggling like Casey has this year and last.

I guess I'm probably in the minority on this one, but Rossi has diminished in my eyes with the graceless way he has reacted to Jorge coming in and beating him.

chunder · 16 Aug 2010, 12:36 (Ref:2745188)

Well I think for the first tiem in his career he has coem up against someone who can readily beat him and do it as easily as he could to others before.

And on the same bike which must pain him even more.

I dont think this has been Valentino's best year on a race bike, perhaps even his worst. The Camel Yam was a bad year but this is far worse, coz he hasnt had the pace and seems dis-spirited and simply unable to go as fast as usual.

Maybe the time for someone else to step abive him is here? Although the fact that he sometimes cant beat guys like Dani make me wonder whether the bike or something simply has gone away from his style and towards Jorge's? Maybe this move has been apparent for a long time and Valentino has not been getting the best bits for a long time?

He was bign rather petulant about money? Youc ant expect to get paid more than the guy who is beating you?

jhansen · 16 Aug 2010, 14:38 (Ref:2745243)

Well, this is an odd year to find a pattern with Vale. So I'm not sure it’s as bad as all that. He had his eyes opened in 2007 and the first half of 2008. Stoner genuinely troubled him during that space of time. But he was arguably quite brilliant in the later half of 2008 and through 2009. However, it must surly surprise him to see how much Lorenzo has matured over the course of one year. Last year Rossi could push Lorenzo into mistakes, but not so this year is it?

In one sense, I can see his frustration having built that team and bike into what it is. With that said, Yamaha would be daft to not consider the future. It all segways into a change for Rossi at Ducati, which will be an interesting adventure for him. And we all know Rossi likes the adventure (and the game) as much as the racing.

**gomick** · 17 Aug 2010, 11:03 (Ref:2745831)

Jorge was on Valentino's pace last year & now Rossi is recovering from a broken leg whilst Jorge is at the top of his game at a youthful 23/24 - wouldnt delve to deep into any theories....

Good time for Vale to change teams

**ghinzani** · 17 Aug 2010, 15:39 (Ref:2746012)

Ahem, cough *papering over the cracks*...

**gomick** · 18 Aug 2010, 09:58 (Ref:2746478)

Not really, its bike racing - **** happens...Its only 10 weeks since he broke his leg - what pace should he be on?

**ghinzani** · 18 Aug 2010, 11:28 (Ref:2746511)

Ignore me Gomick, I'm just on the wind up. I have to admit I am not a Rossi fan, but I do worry that Ducati will not have the resources and people to make him a regular winner next year - if they have'nt kept up since Casey won the world title then why should they start now? They've also lost some key personnel have'nt they? I am sure Yamaha wont want to relinquish Jorge's title as and when he wins it, and Im pretty sure Honda will redouble their efforts with two aliens on the payroll.

jhansen · 18 Aug 2010, 15:41 (Ref:2746618)

I'm curious about 2011. It's the last year of the 800's, so I'm not sure how much the factories are going to invest in a configuration that is on its last leg. Certainly Yamaha will once again be in pole position. I can see Stoner putting the Honda to better use than Pedrosa has.

Sure enough though, Ducati have not been as threatening as they were in 2008 and parts of 2009. With that said, I believe Ducati just missed the plot this year. From what I've read, they were trying to improve the rear of the bike. But in doing so, they ruined the front, which was a strong point in prior years. Certainly they will need an influx of funds in order to gain the lost ground, and prepare for 2012.

chunder · 18 Aug 2010, 17:10 (Ref:2746655)

Does anyone know if Vale is taking Burges and Co wth him to Ducati?

jhansen · 18 Aug 2010, 17:57 (Ref:2746680)

That has not been mentioned as of yet.

**Dani Filth** · 18 Aug 2010, 19:50 (Ref:2746753)

i've heard the commentators that do MotoGP in romanian say that Burgees is indeed going with Vale .. but they're not known for reliability

**gomick** · 20 Aug 2010, 21:12 (Ref:2747782)

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Originally Posted by ghinzani

I do worry that Ducati will not have the resources and people to make him a regular winner next year - if they have'nt kept up since Casey won the world title then why should they start now?

That is a fair point.... Guess the "Burgess decision" is the answer that Ducati need aswell to start afresh, reckon they probably have him too!

**ghinzani** · 21 Aug 2010, 18:42 (Ref:2748059)

Didnt Jules say Burgess has some issues with the Italians or certain members of Ducati? Still, money talks.

**gomick** · 23 Aug 2010, 02:48 (Ref:2748750)

You'd think Vale would only sign if he could take those boys across...

bestfit · 23 Aug 2010, 05:42 (Ref:2748774)

JB might not have a realistic option. Rumours are that Jorge is very happy working with Wilco and Spies is apparently bringing his chief mechanic with him from Tech 3. There may not be a spot for JB at Yamaha, or at least not one he would be happy with.

jhansen · 23 Aug 2010, 14:47 (Ref:2748980)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bestfit

JB might not have a realistic option. Rumours are that Jorge is very happy working with Wilco and Spies is apparently bringing his chief mechanic with him from Tech 3. There may not be a spot for JB at Yamaha, or at least not one he would be happy with.

This is a good point. With that said, I wouldn't mind seeing JB working with Stoner.

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