Two Hour Enduro at Brands Hatch GP - Page 3

GORDON STREETER · 30 May 2012, 06:33 (Ref:3081647)

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Originally Posted by terence bower

I'm sure Jason would talk sensibly

midgetman · 30 May 2012, 08:19 (Ref:3081703)

In the first year, David had a long tube on the Tuf Jug which went right down into the Montego filler neck and delivered the fuel almost into the tank. I thought it was safer than the TJ with the dry break, which only delivers the fuel into the filler neck about 2-3" down in a horizontal spray. We've struggled all along to get a complete dry seal because of the angle of the filler pipe, and the Monty was even worse IIRC.

MGDavid · 30 May 2012, 08:57 (Ref:3081726)

ah DT Direct Claire, no wonder i couldn't find it in the online catalogue. So they do both types, price being the big difference. So with several sources there's no excuse is there.

MGDavid · 30 May 2012, 09:01 (Ref:3081729)

Quote:

Originally Posted by midgetman

In the first year, David had a long tube on the Tuf Jug which went right down into the Montego filler neck and delivered the fuel almost into the tank. I thought it was safer than the TJ with the dry break, which only delivers the fuel into the filler neck about 2-3" down in a horizontal spray. We've struggled all along to get a complete dry seal because of the angle of the filler pipe, and the Monty was even worse IIRC.

correct Max but I hold my hand up and say that my inability to design and modify a road car into a safe and legal race car is no excuse. We spent a LOT of time over the winter with this on the 924 and are reasonably happy with the current setup.

midgetman · 30 May 2012, 11:46 (Ref:3081799)

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Originally Posted by MGDavid

correct Max but I hold my hand up and say that my inability to design and modify a road car into a safe and legal race car is no excuse. We spent a LOT of time over the winter with this on the 924 and are reasonably happy with the current setup.

Me too! It's "not bad" but a bit slow. We didn't spill any on the floor (well, not much LOL) or over the hot wheel so it must have worked, but I'm still not happy. Maybe I'll look at air coming back into the churn like mike did, we ran that with Thundersports some years ago and it dumped 8 gallons of fuel before you could blink!

Al Weyman · 30 May 2012, 12:46 (Ref:3081838)

Well as the cap on the end of the VP nozzle unscrews I dare say a drybreak valve screw on option is available. The one that MGDavid linked to is the one I was talking about, all the hose gubbins is inside.

**Peter Mallett** · 30 May 2012, 13:03 (Ref:3081845)

The dry break doesn't work unless the return hose vents up the handle.

Al Weyman · 30 May 2012, 13:06 (Ref:3081846)

I know not any use for pit lane refuelling without the drybreak but I would still much prefer the jugs than a gerry can and funnel. It makes fueling up the Camaro with standard position tank and filler very easy.

gt917 · 30 May 2012, 18:52 (Ref:3082041)

As i,m entering the 917, i will have to adapt the fuel tank filler tube (3 1/2" internal diameter) to take the dry break coupling on the TJs.

As i have not purchased these at present and no one in my neck of the woods has any to borrow one to measure, would one of you be kind enough to tell me the neck and flange diameters so that i can produce a smaller internal neck.

Many thanks in advance.

midgetman · 30 May 2012, 20:33 (Ref:3082104)

PM me your address and I'll pop one of mine on a carrier so you can have a good paw round it.

gt917 · 31 May 2012, 08:51 (Ref:3082318)

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Originally Posted by midgetman

PM me your address and I'll pop one of mine on a carrier so you can have a good paw round it.

As always, you are a star and i am very gratefull to you for that kind offer.

However, it is not cost effective for all that effort, so i might as well bite the bullet and order the jugs early. I should have gone down this route years ago but have never needed to refuel mid race for one hour events in either car before as tank capacity has been sufficient. This two hour race is going to need a top-up though and i,m certainly not going to do a repeat of the Olympic breakfast sprint fiasco where i had chronic fuel pickup and then ran out !!!!!!! Rarely have i felt so stupid in miscalculating fuel usage and not putting sufficient in.

Thankyou though once again.

Al Weyman · 31 May 2012, 11:15 (Ref:3082398)

Ops I did that earlier in the year and it was only a 20 minute race I conked out at Bombhole on the last lap duh.

MartinSmith · 31 May 2012, 11:52 (Ref:3082515)

Hope you all got your newsletter this morning ....delivered to your mailbox so that it greeted you when you woke

**Tim Falce** · 31 May 2012, 12:44 (Ref:3082554)

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Originally Posted by ClaireSmith

Hope you all got your newsletter this morning ....delivered to your mailbox so that it greeted you when you woke

You need to get up earlier than that Claire, I was already in work when it arrived on my phone.

MartinSmith · 31 May 2012, 12:53 (Ref:3082565)

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Originally Posted by Tim Falce

You need to get up earlier than that Claire, I was already in work when it arrived on my phone.

Great Tim, did it download ok to your phone? It does to my Blackberry

**Tim Falce** · 31 May 2012, 13:21 (Ref:3082585)

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Originally Posted by ClaireSmith

Great Tim, did it download ok to your phone? It does to my Blackberry

Dunno I didn't read it

Seriously though it was fine, it re-formats to fit the screen and the pictures open OK. That's on an Android.

midgetman · 31 May 2012, 15:30 (Ref:3082663)

"Perceived marketing wisdom" is that the best time to send a newsletter is mid-afternoon on a Tuesday or Wednesday. Send it overnight and it's a case of "Oh, I'll read that later" when we open up our work in-boxes, but it gets deleted as the work piles up. 2pm or 3pm and we've got the morning post shifted and can spend some time on it over a cup of tea. Why Tuesday or Wednesday I don't know!

Come on then, your mailer software should tell you whether Tim's pulling your leg or not re the time he read it!

**Tim Falce** · 31 May 2012, 15:48 (Ref:3082667)

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Originally Posted by midgetman

Come on then, your mailer software should tell you whether Tim's pulling your leg or not re the time he read it!

I didn't say I read it at 4am just that it was there.

MartinSmith · 31 May 2012, 15:50 (Ref:3082671)

Quote:

Originally Posted by midgetman

"Perceived marketing wisdom" is that the best time to send a newsletter is mid-afternoon on a Tuesday or Wednesday. Send it overnight and it's a case of "Oh, I'll read that later" when we open up our work in-boxes, but it gets deleted as the work piles up. 2pm or 3pm and we've got the morning post shifted and can spend some time on it over a cup of tea. Why Tuesday or Wednesday I don't know!

Come on then, your mailer software should tell you whether Tim's pulling your leg or not re the time he read it!

I haven't even looked, I know half were opened, and out of that what the click rate was but I haven't done drill down yet, it will sned me a report soon enough I think

midgetman · 31 May 2012, 17:36 (Ref:3082735)

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Originally Posted by Tim Falce

I didn't say I read it at 4am just that it was there.

Ah-ha, back tracking

>>>>You need to get up earlier than that Claire, I was already in work when it arrived on my phone.

MartinSmith · 31 May 2012, 17:39 (Ref:3082740)

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Originally Posted by midgetman

Ah-ha, back tracking

>>>>You need to get up earlier than that Claire, I was already in work when it arrived on my phone.

I can see you read yours Max

MGDavid · 31 May 2012, 17:39 (Ref:3082741)

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Originally Posted by gt917

As i,m entering the 917, i will have to adapt the fuel tank filler tube (3 1/2" internal diameter) to take the dry break coupling on the TJs.

As i have not purchased these at present and no one in my neck of the woods has any to borrow one to measure, would one of you be kind enough to tell me the neck and flange diameters so that i can produce a smaller internal neck.

Many thanks in advance.

the flange is 2.75" OD and is 0.25" wide.
The parallel part of the nozzle is 1.425" OD.
HTH

thinking about it, don't you just want a metal disc 4" in diameter with a 2-1/4" hole in the middle, bonded to the flange of the nozzle? Saves spoiling the car...

gt917 · 31 May 2012, 20:45 (Ref:3082879)

[QUOTE] Saves spoiling the car...

Thankyou for the measurements.

Do not worry about spoiling its looks. It will still be the same outside but will just have the correct size hole in a plate, fixed in the neck under the alloy fuel cap. Simples !!!

Thankyou once again.

GT.

midgetman · 31 May 2012, 21:37 (Ref:3082916)

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Originally Posted by ClaireSmith

I can see you read yours Max

Yes I opened mine Claire. I would have read it if it was afternoon on a Tuesday or Wednesday

Now, if you had some links, you would then be able to track which part of the newsletter particularly interested me. Scary isn't it what marketers can tell...

Mike Bell · 1 Jun 2012, 05:30 (Ref:3083021)

I've only just found this thread. Graham, you have PM.

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