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Old 14 Feb 2018, 00:46 (Ref:3801155)   #1261
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IndyCar are planning a street course test, at either season opener St. Petes or Long Beach.

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Old 14 Feb 2018, 13:58 (Ref:3801290)   #1262
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Thing people are missing is that in the initial simulator tests for Indycar there were big visibility issues that meant a return to the drawing board and new materials etc.

F1 didn't have the time to do that. They barely had time to get the much more mature Halo technology in on the timescale they had committed to. If they had postponed again and there was a serious accident this season they would have been torn apart by the media and fans yet alone the legal issues of having a system but not using it.

Besides they've said on several occasions that the Halo is not the only solution for the future so there's no reason why they might not adopt a shield type device in seasons to come.

All this talk from people on social media that they are done watching F1 because of the halo is, frankly, laughable.
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Old 14 Feb 2018, 14:56 (Ref:3801295)   #1263
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A good point, obviously the FIA wanted something in for 2018, but it seemed the majority of teams favoured the shield, so therein lies the controversy. At least Indycar are giving it a proper test
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Old 14 Feb 2018, 15:17 (Ref:3801298)   #1264
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Thing people are missing is that in the initial simulator tests for Indycar there were big visibility issues that meant a return to the drawing board and new materials etc.

F1 didn't have the time to do that. They barely had time to get the much more mature Halo technology in on the timescale they had committed to. If they had postponed again and there was a serious accident this season they would have been torn apart by the media and fans yet alone the legal issues of having a system but not using it.

Besides they've said on several occasions that the Halo is not the only solution for the future so there's no reason why they might not adopt a shield type device in seasons to come.

All this talk from people on social media that they are done watching F1 because of the halo is, frankly, laughable.
only counterpoint to that would be that f1 has a lot more chassis manufacturers available for simulation and material suggestions. the fact that however many teams and a massive organisation such as the fia couldn’t get their act together and properly revisit things reflects quite badly on all involved.
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Old 14 Feb 2018, 15:58 (Ref:3801299)   #1265
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only counterpoint to that would be that f1 has a lot more chassis manufacturers available for simulation and material suggestions. the fact that however many teams and a massive organisation such as the fia couldn’t get their act together and properly revisit things reflects quite badly on all involved.
I agree. IMHO there was plenty of time to fully evaluate multiple solutions.

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Thing people are missing is that in the initial simulator tests for Indycar there were big visibility issues that meant a return to the drawing board and new materials etc.

F1 didn't have the time to do that. They barely had time to get the much more mature Halo technology in on the timescale they had committed to. If they had postponed again and there was a serious accident this season they would have been torn apart by the media and fans yet alone the legal issues of having a system but not using it.

Besides they've said on several occasions that the Halo is not the only solution for the future so there's no reason why they might not adopt a shield type device in seasons to come.

All this talk from people on social media that they are done watching F1 because of the halo is, frankly, laughable.
F1 said in 2013 that they were planning on introducing head protection. If they couldn't find time to run some simulator tests in 5 years then that points to even bigger political issues.

F1 had the time, money and resources to do this quite easily. They clearly didn't want to.
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All this talk from people on social media that they are done watching F1 because of the halo is, frankly, laughable.
The straw that broke the camel's back.
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Halo being considered for NZ TRS - to keep the series FIA relevant.

Dixon says aeroshield ok for Indy car after initial test.

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I just saw a few launch photos & a video of various 2018 F1 cars. I immediately noticed halos have been incorporated into the cars.

I viewed the 2018 rule [email]changes at: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/technical/2018/1/what-are-the-new-f1-technical-rules-for-2018-.html

I was curious as to whether or not these devices obstruct the drivers vision due to their design.

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There is a thread with some 1300 posts regarding the halo and every conceivable aspects of the various concepts of drivers head protection, from visor to halo. Visibility is one of the main discussion points.
Thread is here: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129305
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You mention that Ricciardo said it does not obstruct vision, so you have answered your own question.
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I read the other day that Bottas pumped a load of laps in on the sim which also has the halo fitted. He said there was no issues involving visibility in fact after a number of laps he forgot about it.
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Martin Brundle: "Does it come with a hacksaw to cut off the Halo? You need to feel a little scared when you’re driving, and watching, F1. It’s a foundation of the DNA of the sport."


Couldn't agree more! Halo has to be the dumbest idea the FiA have come up with ever!
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There is a thread with some 1300 posts regarding the halo and every conceivable aspects of the various concepts of drivers head protection, from visor to halo. Visibility is one of the main discussion points.
Thread is here: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129305
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