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Old 17 Dec 2021, 22:38 (Ref:4090377)   #51
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Team 75 Bernhard joins DTM next year, seemingly with one Porsche and Thomas Preining, a factory Porsche driver, will be behind the wheel. Early on it didn't seem Porsche is keen on DTM but now the things have changed. That's great news. It means at least 3 Porsches on the grid.


CONFIRMED
Abt - Audi - K. van der Linde
Abt - Audi - R. Rast
T3 Motorsport - Lamborghini?? - ??
T3 Motorsport - Lamborghini?? - ??
GruppeM Racing - Mercedes - ??
GruppeM Racing - Mercedes - ??
HRT - Mercedes - M. Götz
HRT - Mercedes - ??
Rosberg - Audi - ??
Rosberg - Audi - ??
GetSpeed - Mercedes - ??
Grasser - Lamborghini - C. Schmid
Grasser - Lamborghini - M. Bortolotti??
Grasser - Lamborghini - ??
Grasser - Lamborghini - ??
Mücke - Mercedes - ??
AF Corse - Ferrari - ??
AF Corse - Ferrari - ??
SSR - Porsche - ??
SSR - Porsche - ??
Team 75 Bernhard - Porsche - T. Preining

RUMOURED/POSSIBLE
?? - BMW - M. Wittmann??
GetSpeed - Mercedes - A. Maini
HRT - Mercedes - D. Schumacher
Mücke - Mercedes - 2nd entry?
Walkenhorst?? - ??
Walkenhorst?? - ??
There may be a silver lining to the mercedes team orders at Norisring.... Manufacturers have realised you need 3-5 cars in play for this series, meaning the car count should be good!
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Old 17 Dec 2021, 23:38 (Ref:4090387)   #52
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It turns out that after all Red Bull with AF Corse is back. Still no news about the drivers though. For certain it won't be Albon and Lawson.
Why not? Does F2 clash with DTM in 2022?

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“But in the future it's not something I want, not the championship, not the way the weekend went down.
https://www.motorsport.com/dtm/news/...f-dtm/6686024/

But DTM is one of the premier touring car / GT series in the world, a destination series and a prestigious title. If Lawson dismisses DTM as a triviality, a championship to race for a bit of fun and not to bother with if it doesn't go well rather than a super serious elite competition racing for sheep stations at the highest level, isn't that rude and dismissive?
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Old 18 Dec 2021, 08:30 (Ref:4090427)   #53
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Well, I should think Albon will be fully committed to his Williams F1 drive for 2022.

For Lawson, tin tops were never on his horizon, he's a single seater man through and through. He'll be wanting a top result in F2 this coming year and he won't want to compromise that by diluting his focus. Plus he's also got his F1 Free Practice commitments with Alphatauri for 2022 so plenty on his plate already.

Nick Cassidy would be a good pair of hands but I think there are clashes with his Formula E program

To be fair Lawson was not dismissive of DTM, he was simply justifiably disappointed with the result and the tactics. He said it was fun and different - that doesn't sound dismissive to me. Here is the full quote to give your quote context:-

“But in the future it's not something I want, not the championship, not the way the weekend went down. I loved the season. I really enjoyed my DTM campaign, it was really so much fun. A lot different in many ways to what I'm used to."

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Old 11 Jan 2022, 09:18 (Ref:4093239)   #54
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Rast is now confirmed at Abt:
https://gt-place.com/2022/01/11/abt-...e-saison-2022/
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Old 11 Jan 2022, 15:09 (Ref:4093310)   #55
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Worst kept secret, isn't it. Anyway great to see Rast back, I'm really curious how he fares in a new-era DTM. He's no stranger to GT3 cars so I don't think it'll be a problem for him to adapt.
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Old 12 Jan 2022, 06:36 (Ref:4093373)   #56
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Abt confirmed the third Audi:
https://gt-place.com/2022/01/11/abt-...-fahrzeug-ein/
Jens Feucht confirmes, that T3 Motorsport again will start with Lamborghini.
https://gt-place.com/2022/01/11/jens...-hat-geglueht/
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Old 18 Jan 2022, 14:08 (Ref:4094273)   #57
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Ricardo Feller will drive the third Abt Audi.
https://gt-place.com/2022/01/18/dtm-...icardo-feller/
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Old 18 Jan 2022, 14:53 (Ref:4094284)   #58
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Quite a strong addition to the squad, on paper Abt looks much stronger than last year. Will be interesting to see Feller in a single-driver format. Feller's signing means Muth won't be at Abt - he was said to be competing for this seat but there's still an opportunity for Muth to land at Rosberg alongside Müller whose presence there seems rather certain.

From other news, there are rumours about AF Corse expanding to three cars and Miguel Molina is said to be one of the candidates for that seat, which would not be sponsored by Red Bull.

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Abt - Audi - K. van der Linde
Abt - Audi - R. Rast
Abt - Audi - R. Feller
T3 Motorsport - Lamborghini?? - ??
T3 Motorsport - Lamborghini?? - ??
GruppeM Racing - Mercedes - ??
GruppeM Racing - Mercedes - ??
HRT - Mercedes - M. Götz
HRT - Mercedes - ??
Rosberg - Audi - N. Müller??
Rosberg - Audi - E. Muth??
GetSpeed - Mercedes - A. Maini??
Grasser - Lamborghini - C. Schmid
Grasser - Lamborghini - M. Bortolotti??
Grasser - Lamborghini - ??
Grasser - Lamborghini - ??
Mücke - Mercedes - ??
AF Corse - Ferrari - ??
AF Corse - Ferrari - ??
SSR - Porsche - ??
SSR - Porsche - ??
Team 75 Bernhard - Porsche - T. Preining

RUMOURED/POSSIBLE
?? - BMW - M. Wittmann??
Mücke - Mercedes - 2nd entry??
Walkenhorst?? - ??
Walkenhorst?? - ??
AF Corse - Ferrari - ??

It looks like 22 already confirmed cars. Seems to be a stronger field than last year.
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Old 20 Jan 2022, 18:57 (Ref:4094621)   #59
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Rumours say, that there will be a bit switching at AMG:
Haupt Racing Team: (Stolz/Maini)
WINWARD: (Götz/Auer)
GruppeM: (Engel/Juncadella)
https://gt-place.com/2022/01/20/dtm-...-mercedes-amg/
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Old 20 Jan 2022, 19:33 (Ref:4094632)   #60
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Rumours say, that there will be a bit switching at AMG:
Haupt Racing Team: (Stolz/Maini)
WINWARD: (Götz/Auer)
GruppeM: (Engel/Juncadella)
https://gt-place.com/2022/01/20/dtm-...-mercedes-amg/
Know if there is any merit to the rumour Schubert is going to do the DTM with their BMWs?
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Old 20 Jan 2022, 19:45 (Ref:4094633)   #61
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Outside of a potential Schubert entry, rumour is 2x ROWE cars, 2x Walkenhorst

Sheldon VDL, Wittmann, Eng and Spengler according to Autosport..
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Old 20 Jan 2022, 19:53 (Ref:4094635)   #62
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Outside of a potential Schubert entry, rumour is 2x ROWE cars
ROWE is to 99.9% gone from the DTM. They deleted all DTM-dates from their Homepage and were not happy with the series after 2021.
Likely back to GTWC.
And the second BMW Team will be Schubert or RMG.
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Old 20 Jan 2022, 22:49 (Ref:4094650)   #63
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ROWE is to 99.9% gone from the DTM. They deleted all DTM-dates from their Homepage and were not happy with the series after 2021.
Likely back to GTWC.
And the second BMW Team will be Schubert or RMG.
That would explain the Schubert rumour then

Do you know why ROWE were so unhappy?? Bad BOP on an old car?
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Old 21 Jan 2022, 15:29 (Ref:4094740)   #64
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Do you know why ROWE were so unhappy?? Bad BOP on an old car?

BoP, with the Organisation from the ITR and the race control was a mess.
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Old 22 Jan 2022, 11:07 (Ref:4094851)   #65
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It's shaping up to be quite a strong field and the numbers almost certain to go up comparing to last year.

Shame to lose ROWE as they were one of the first teams much into the GT3- DTM but has to be said they were completely nowhere last year, even in comparison to Walkenhorst's sole BMW.

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Abt - Audi - K. van der Linde
Abt - Audi - R. Rast
Abt - Audi - R. Feller
T3 Motorsport - Lamborghini?? - ??
T3 Motorsport - Lamborghini?? - ??
GruppeM Racing - Mercedes - M. Engel??
GruppeM Racing - Mercedes - D. Juncandella??
HRT - Mercedes - L. Stolz??
HRT - Mercedes - A. Maini??
Rosberg - Audi - N. Müller??
Rosberg - Audi - E. Muth??
Grasser - Lamborghini - C. Schmid
Grasser - Lamborghini - M. Bortolotti??
Grasser - Lamborghini - ??
Grasser - Lamborghini - ??
AF Corse - Ferrari - ??
AF Corse - Ferrari - ??
SSR - Porsche - ??
SSR - Porsche - ??
Team 75 Bernhard - Porsche - T. Preining
WINDWARD - Mercedes - M. Götz??
WINWARD - Mercedes - L. Auer??

RUMOURED/POSSIBLE
GetSpeed - Mercedes - ??
Mücke - Mercedes - ??
Walkenhorst - BMW - M. Wittmann ??
Walkenhorst - BMW - B. Spengler/P. Eng??
Schubert - BMW - S. van der Linde??
Schubert - BMW - B. Spengler/ P. Eng??
AF Corse - Ferrari - ??
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Old 25 Jan 2022, 17:30 (Ref:4095293)   #66
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When you use teamorder in 2022, it is possible to be banned from the series.
https://gt-place.com/2022/01/25/auss...teamorder-ein/
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Old 29 Jan 2022, 14:50 (Ref:4095853)   #67
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GetSpeed likely leave DTM.
https://gt-place.com/2022/01/29/gets...g-aus-der-dtm/
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Old 30 Jan 2022, 13:15 (Ref:4096429)   #68
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The DTM future of Mücke Motorsport is also rather unclear. Peter Mucke claimed he would again field at least one car in the DTM but that would probably need some involvement from Mercedes. But Mercedes mentions only HRT, WINWARD and GruppeM so it looks unlikely Mucke will be able to rely on the factory support. If true, I suspect they will no longer be part of the DTM.
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Old 2 Feb 2022, 15:52 (Ref:4097115)   #69
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Apparently 30 is the car limit for DTM, and they already have around 25 confirmed entries
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Old 2 Feb 2022, 22:43 (Ref:4097171)   #70
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Looks like a very healthy yet not overcrowded grid. For now it seems like a great season in the making, with team orders also banned.
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Old 3 Feb 2022, 00:15 (Ref:4097174)   #71
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The team orders rule could be quite difficult to enforce. Perhaps Auer spins out instead of slowing down. Unless they are bugging all the meeting rooms and and factories the DTM will have no idea whether something is a team order or not. The only instance that is enforceable would be outright telling the driver to slow down. Anything else would only be speculation which is a slippery slope to begin handing out penalties on.
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Old 14 Feb 2022, 10:03 (Ref:4098593)   #72
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Attempto Racing - Audi R8 LMS GT3 - Marius Zug
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Old 14 Feb 2022, 10:51 (Ref:4098598)   #73
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That's absolutely surprising for me but great to see yet another entry in DTM - the grid looks fuller and fuller and it's shaping up to be a very healthy and decent one. Don't expect Attempto to be very near the sharp end of the grid but still nice to see them in DTM.

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Abt - Audi - K. van der Linde
Abt - Audi - R. Rast
Abt - Audi - R. Feller
T3 Motorsport - Lamborghini?? - ??
T3 Motorsport - Lamborghini?? - ??
GruppeM Racing - Mercedes - M. Engel??
GruppeM Racing - Mercedes - D. Juncandella??
HRT - Mercedes - L. Stolz??
HRT - Mercedes - A. Maini??
Rosberg - Audi - N. Müller??
Rosberg - Audi - E. Muth??
Grasser - Lamborghini - C. Schmid
Grasser - Lamborghini - M. Bortolotti??
Grasser - Lamborghini - ??
Grasser - Lamborghini - ??
AF Corse - Ferrari - ??
AF Corse - Ferrari - ??
SSR - Porsche - ??
SSR - Porsche - ??
Team 75 Bernhard - Porsche - T. Preining
WINDWARD - Mercedes - M. Götz??
WINWARD - Mercedes - L. Auer??
Attempto - Audi - M. Zug

RUMOURED/POSSIBLE
GetSpeed - Mercedes - ??
Mücke - Mercedes - ??
Walkenhorst - BMW - M. Wittmann ??
Walkenhorst - BMW - B. Spengler/P. Eng??
Schubert - BMW - S. van der Linde??
Schubert - BMW - B. Spengler/ P. Eng??
AF Corse - Ferrari - ??
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Old 14 Feb 2022, 11:01 (Ref:4098599)   #74
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That's absolutely surprising for me but great to see yet another entry in DTM - the grid looks fuller and fuller and it's shaping up to be a very healthy and decent one. Don't expect Attempto to be very near the sharp end of the grid but still nice to see them in DTM.

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Abt - Audi - K. van der Linde
Abt - Audi - R. Rast
Abt - Audi - R. Feller
T3 Motorsport - Lamborghini?? - ??
T3 Motorsport - Lamborghini?? - ??
GruppeM Racing - Mercedes - M. Engel??
GruppeM Racing - Mercedes - D. Juncandella??
HRT - Mercedes - L. Stolz??
HRT - Mercedes - A. Maini??
Rosberg - Audi - N. Müller??
Rosberg - Audi - E. Muth??
Grasser - Lamborghini - C. Schmid
Grasser - Lamborghini - M. Bortolotti??
Grasser - Lamborghini - ??
Grasser - Lamborghini - ??
AF Corse - Ferrari - ??
AF Corse - Ferrari - ??
SSR - Porsche - ??
SSR - Porsche - ??
Team 75 Bernhard - Porsche - T. Preining
WINDWARD - Mercedes - M. Götz??
WINWARD - Mercedes - L. Auer??
Attempto - Audi - M. Zug

RUMOURED/POSSIBLE
GetSpeed - Mercedes - ??
Mücke - Mercedes - ??
Walkenhorst - BMW - M. Wittmann ??
Walkenhorst - BMW - B. Spengler/P. Eng??
Schubert - BMW - S. van der Linde??
Schubert - BMW - B. Spengler/ P. Eng??
AF Corse - Ferrari - ??

If everything on your list came to fruition then we'd have the 30 car grid that DTM said was the absolute limit

The only shame would be that there wasnt any representation from Aston / Mclaren to take it to the germans and italians but I think thats pretty much a certain no at this point
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Old 14 Feb 2022, 12:05 (Ref:4098606)   #75
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RUMOURED/POSSIBLE
GetSpeed - Mercedes - ??
Mücke - Mercedes - ??
Walkenhorst - BMW - M. Wittmann ??
Walkenhorst - BMW - B. Spengler/P. Eng??
Schubert - BMW - S. van der Linde??
Schubert - BMW - B. Spengler/ P. Eng??
AF Corse - Ferrari - ??
GetSpeed are likely out- they confirmed a 3 car line-up for International GT Open, and were relying on Maini's budget.

https://www.motorsport.com/dtm/news/...maini/7986692/
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