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Old 29 Aug 2020, 00:43 (Ref:3998576)   #1701
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Clare says it’s nowt to do with the Bernie. https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...-to-ecclestone
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Old 29 Aug 2020, 01:08 (Ref:3998578)   #1702
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Clare says it’s nowt to do with the Bernie. https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...-to-ecclestone
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That article also says: "She had "no comment to make" on the identity of the backer."
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Old 29 Aug 2020, 01:16 (Ref:3998579)   #1703
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That article also says: "She had "no comment to make" on the identity of the backer."
That’s true, maybe it’s Toto. Or you?

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I spoke to Mr. Ecclestone earlier in the week, and I did ask if it was him behind it
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Clare says it’s nowt to do with the Bernie. https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...-to-ecclestone
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I am not sure if it is just how that article is written or what, but it is a jumble of contradictory statements. Ranging from "Dorilton Capital is completely independent" to then acknowledging that Dorliton manages a fund using someone else's money. Both statements can be "sort" of true at the same time in that yes, Dorilton manages the fund and yes the money comes from elsewhere, but in reality everyone has a boss and that includes Dorliton. Whoever is providing the money for the fund that bought Williams is the boss of Dorliton in this respect.

As to being asked if it is Bernie. Assuming it is true, and also assuming it is not supposed to be public, what do we expect them to say when questioned? "Oh, darn, you asked the correct question. Yes it is him. You got us."

People lie all the time in these situations. Especially if they are bound by confidentiality agreements.

It would be interesting if Bernie was the backer. But whoever is the backer may remain a secret.

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Old 29 Aug 2020, 03:39 (Ref:3998584)   #1705
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So in essence Williams have no idea who has bought the company, for all they know the new owner is a property developer as Billy alluded to above.
Williams heritage collection $ xx, Factory site $ xx and F1 entry $ xx, total sale price $200 million, thank you and goodnight?

On a separate note if the backer is Bernie, they can expect wholesale change, Bernie doesn't do losing. When he purchased Brabham, he fired the whole design staff and gave Gordon Murray free reign to change anything he wanted.

Given that whoever owns 100 percent of the company, I think we will see sweeping changes.

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Not sure, to Richard’s point, the article tells us anything about who’s bought it or who knows who’s bought it. Other than it isn’t us.
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Old 29 Aug 2020, 05:21 (Ref:3998591)   #1707
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So after all that we know diddly squat more that we did before
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She said “I am in my role, I'm here, I'm doing my job, and it is business as usual."

Hardly what an investor is going to want to hear!!
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She said “I am in my role, I'm here, I'm doing my job, and it is business as usual."

Hardly what an investor is going to want to hear!!
Quite, but not for long I suggest, surely no one is going to sit back and watch Williams burn through their money?
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I am not sure if it is just how that article is written or what, but it is a jumble of contradictory statements. Ranging from "Dorilton Capital is completely independent" to then acknowledging that Dorliton manages a fund using someone else's money. Both statements can be "sort" of true at the same time in that yes, Dorilton manages the fund and yes the money comes from elsewhere, but in reality everyone has a boss and that includes Dorliton. Whoever is providing the money for the fund that bought Williams is the boss of Dorliton in this respect.

As to being asked if it is Bernie. Assuming it is true, and also assuming it is not supposed to be public, what do we expect them to say when questioned? "Oh, darn, you asked the correct question. Yes it is him. You got us."

People lie all the time in these situations. Especially if they are bound by confidentiality agreements.

It would be interesting if Bernie was the backer. But whoever is the backer may remain a secret.

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In my experience of motorsport, and especially of Formula One, generally the stronger people deny things, the more likely they are to turn out be true.
I think it would be great if it is Bernie who is behind it. He has the money, and could just be doing his old ally Frank a favour whilst also giving himself another opportunity to get involved in Formula One and create some mischief again!
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Exactly. Never believe any rumour until somebody starts denying it!
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What if it isn’t true? Should they confirm it is true.
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What if it isn’t true? Should they confirm it is true.
No, you just ignore it.
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But she was directly asked!
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Oh well i suspect we will find out who is behind this soon, these things never remain secret for long
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I am looking forward to season 3 of the Netflix f1 fly on the wall documentary!
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Covering 2021?I would guess COVID has made it too hard to have cameras and crew basically embedded in teams like they have been.
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Joe Saward seems to think that James Matthews and perhaps Graham Lowden (Manor F1 as was) potentially involved somewhere down the line allegedly..
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Claire Williams is supposed to be a racing person but it hasn't gone to well, since she's been running the team.
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My point is they need people who understand racing, rather than just those who just see it as a business. Look what VJ and now Stroll have done with Force India and Racing Point. They haven’t got too heavily involved on the racing side, they’ve let those in the know do that for them
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My point is they need people who understand racing, rather than just those who just see it as a business. Look what VJ and now Stroll have done with Force India and Racing Point. They haven’t got too heavily involved on the racing side, they’ve let those in the know do that for them
They need the right racing people, backed up by the right investment and resources ( wind tunnels, CFD etc) and they are in short supply. Look what happened when they employed Paddy Lowe.
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It's an understandable move, she's endured a lot and will probably, enjoy having more time to spend with her young family.
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I think an unceremonious headline would say "Williams clan fired!"

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