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Old 16 Jul 2002, 19:18 (Ref:335236)   #1
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Fiorano.

Just wondering if any of you have a circuit diagram of the short version of the Fiorano circuit (1.413 km). I've been looking everywhere but all I can find are maps of the full course (2.976 km).

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Old 16 Jul 2002, 23:18 (Ref:335420)   #2
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dude, I've been searching but found nothing. I personally didn't know there was a short course in Fiorano.
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Old 17 Jul 2002, 07:10 (Ref:335543)   #3
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I haven't heard of a short(er) version either. As the length you give is about half of the track's usual length, the only feasible option is a connection road between the corner in turn 7 leading back to the main straight (and the pit garage).
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Old 17 Jul 2002, 15:08 (Ref:335784)   #4
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dude, I've been searching but found nothing. I personally didn't know there was a short course in Fiorano.
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I haven't heard of a short(er) version either. As the length you give is about half of the track's usual length, the only feasible option is a connection road between the corner in turn 7 leading back to the main straight (and the pit garage).
Thanks for your help guys. I reckon you're probably right, Dino.
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Old 17 Jul 2002, 15:59 (Ref:335796)   #5
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I think there is a short course - times are sometimes noted on F1 live and other sites when describing test sessions. I dont know the layout but I definately remember it being stated.
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Old 17 Jul 2002, 16:11 (Ref:335801)   #6
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The thing about the times is a good point, Mal. I have never seen any Fiorano laptimes published other than around 1 minute, and that's a normal time for 3 km of track with an F1. So what made you think there is a shorter version anwyay, LucaBadoer? Is there? The search is on ...
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Old 17 Jul 2002, 18:35 (Ref:335888)   #7
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So what made you think there is a shorter version anwyay, LucaBadoer? Is there? The search is on ...
Maranello, 15th July

Circuit: Fiorano track, 2.976 km - short course 1.413 km.
Driver: Luca Badoer, F2002 chassis n°219, 220 and 221.
Weather: air temperature 20°C, track 23°C. Rain.

The shakedown took place this afternoon at Fiorano of the three F2002, which Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro will use in the forthcoming French Grand Prix, which takes place at Magny-Cours circuit on Sunday, 21th July.

Luca Badoer covered a total of 15 laps (3 on the short version of the track), with chassis 219 (T-car) 220 (Rubens Barrichello'race car) and 221 (Michael Schumacher's race car). The best time of the day was 1:09:030. Badoer also did some practice starts.


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Old 17 Jul 2002, 18:39 (Ref:335890)   #8
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Did you guys knew that Michael smashed the standing trackrecord by a second last week? Its in the 57's now
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Old 17 Jul 2002, 23:17 (Ref:336132)   #9
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The latest Fiorano the one that appeared in F1 racing

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Old 18 Jul 2002, 14:39 (Ref:336555)   #10
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Thanks for the article, LucaBadoer and thanks for that map as well, Jordi. "The best time of the day was 1:09:030" With 3 laps on the short version of half the length one might assume that those laptimes in the range of 30+ seconds would be the fastest lap times. Curious stuff. Jordi's map doesn't show any short version, only the mid-nineties modified first corner. The track being a figure-8 one would think half of the 8 where the pits is would be the short version. Is there a sliproad at the junction perhaps? Any Fiorano visitors at 10-10's?
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Old 18 Jul 2002, 16:58 (Ref:336650)   #11
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I also found aerial photos, but they were older than the map I posted. BTW, there was no such short tracks in those old pics.
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I thought the same as Dino; a possible link that halves the track somehow. But looking at the photo, nothing is visible!


Also, long time ago I thought that the short version were actually the circular tracks (used for evaluating tyre deflection) but it's not the case. Those circles (counted together) cannot measure 1.4 km..... :confused:

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That was one of the pics I saw.

BTW, I hoped I had a track besides my home!
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Old 18 Jul 2002, 17:36 (Ref:336689)   #14
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:confused: Don't have any idea of how old or new it is, it's from the Ferrari official site. But respects the map's layout....
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Old 18 Jul 2002, 18:04 (Ref:336725)   #16
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And usually they have to stop testing before something like 8pm in order to not disturb them!!!
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Yeah, but at 8 pm not much testing can be done and not much energy is left anyway..... But until then imagine the fun....
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I e-mailed the people at http://www.racingcircuits.net and:


"There is a link road (circled) connecting the start/finish straight with the turns 8&9 straight. This is my best guess as to where the shortcut link is located as no other access roads appear wide enough or have sufficent run-off areas for racetrack use. The attached photograph has been enlarged, hence its poor quality, however the link road discussed above can be identified on this image."






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So, if that is the shortcut, after the start-finish line they have a supertight right-left chicane to then rejoin on turn 9... makes sense. I wonder why it isn't bigger and better done, though
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