2019 TCR Australia Silly Season

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by one five five

What was illegal about the GTR?

Plenty, the guys running them in historics have noted lots of things, boost controller wired up to intermittent wiper controls, so you'd probably suggest they were running higher than legal boost.

[chavez]

Originally Posted by Mixer

Plenty, the guys running them in historics have noted lots of things, boost controller wired up to intermittent wiper controls, so you'd probably suggest they were running higher than legal boost.

And the team owner had form by his own admissions.

A shame in some ways that we are unlikely to see such things again.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by one five five

Isn't different versions of the same car against the rules of TCR?

There are two versions of the SEAT Leon eligible.

[Umai Naa]

No, I think he's referring to two different constructors for the same car.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

No, I think he's referring to two different constructors for the same car.

Ok.

In that case, the Astra has been developed by two different companies.

[Umai Naa]

Yes, but not in parallel.

Lubner took over from Kissling only this year.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Yes, but not in parallel.

Lubner took over from Kissling only this year.

The GRM article doesn't suggest them taking over from Vukovic, but rather building for them in partnership.

[Umai Naa]

If Vukovic is the nominated constructor of the Megane, there's no issue.

[GTRMagic]

Want an Australian delivered, GWR-run Hyundai TCR car?

For Sale Here

[Umai Naa]

That was quick...

[Sandgroper]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Want an Australian delivered, GWR-run Hyundai TCR car?

For Sale Here

Jumping the sereis ship already or a diferent branding ??

[Umai Naa]

Perhaps the money to run it isn't there?

[Mixer]

Just like the GWR V8Supercar team!

[Sandgroper]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Perhaps the money to run it isn't there?

Was it ever gonna be?
A 4th or 5th tier series

[Mark Petch]

Originally Posted by Sandgroper

Jumping the sereis ship already or a diferent branding ??

If you read the advertisement for the car, clearly Garth Walden is looking for someone to take ownership of the vehicle and possibly run it for that person.

Reading between the lines, I would suggest that Garth has failed to find a paying driver to make this a commercially viable business venture, so needs/want to bail out of the investment.

Is the car actually owned by Garth, or perhaps another investor?

One thing that is certain is that it's a very good car, and proven to be a front runner in the right hands.

My personal opinion is that the Australian TCR Series is in its infancy and by the time the Series started, most of the monied young drivers had already signed up for their current Gigs.

That will change for the next season, IMO, because TCR just makes more commercial and promotional sense than most of the 2nd and 3rd tier Series, as it enjoys free to air TV that can only get better with time, as obviously there is no shortage of money at PAYCE.

Just my opinion mind, and yes, I do have a vested interest, as I own and run a TCR i30N Hyundai here in New Zealand, so you could well say I am biased and I accept that is a fair point for those who might want to shoot me down.

Cheers,

Mark

[Umai Naa]

The car was propped up by series sponsors at round 1.

It, and its sister belong to a private owner.

[Petoli]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

The car was propped up by series sponsors at round 1.

It, and its sister belong to a private owner.

Arent all the cars owned privately though. They may not be owned by the team running them, but someone owns them.

[Umai Naa]

An owner whose identity is undisclosed.

[one five five]

Originally Posted by Sandgroper

Was it ever gonna be?
A 4th or 5th tier series

What do you mean here?

[Sandgroper]

Originally Posted by Mark Petch

If you read the advertisement for the car, clearly Garth Walden is looking for someone to take ownership of the vehicle and possibly run it for that person.

Reading between the lines, I would suggest that Garth has failed to find a paying driver to make this a commercially viable business venture, so needs/want to bail out of the investment.

Is the car actually owned by Garth, or perhaps another investor?

One thing that is certain is that it's a very good car, and proven to be a front runner in the right hands.

My personal opinion is that the Australian TCR Series is in its infancy and by the time the Series started, most of the monied young drivers had already signed up for their current Gigs.

That will change for the next season, IMO, because TCR just makes more commercial and promotional sense than most of the 2nd and 3rd tier Series, as it enjoys free to air TV that can only get better with time, as obviously there is no shortage of money at PAYCE.

Just my opinion mind, and yes, I do have a vested interest, as I own and run a TCR i30N Hyundai here in New Zealand, so you could well say I am biased and I accept that is a fair point for those who might want to shoot me down.

Cheers,

Mark

Cheers Mark,

I would love to see it run on the same bill as the Supercar series however with it already recieving its own coverage outright I understand the best concept would be to leave it as a stand alone.

[Sandgroper]

Originally Posted by one five five

What do you mean here?

Ignore that statement, I asnwered a comment whch was totally irrelevent to the original posts.

[mtpanorama]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

An owner whose identity is undisclosed.

Owns a Porsche that runs out of the same workshop.

[Mixer]

GRM ordered another 3 Alfas:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/07/13...QheYxtWuDRwsf0

[twinwebbers]

Interesting to know what is going on at GRM... Garry (and Barry) are smart operators always ready to make a buck. Super 5000 builds, more TCR cars and investigating building Renaults, they seem to be branching off into areas other than their Supercar team.

Meanwhile the major sponsor of the Supercar team is moaning and whinging in public (noting that he has form) about the lack of speed in the team.

Perhaps they are looking at spreading risk or perhaps selling the V8 team to Mr Adderton shortly and carrying on having fun (and making money) elsewhere.

Interesting times at GRM....

[mayhem]

Word around the traps is Boost might be more than just a sponsor of the Supercar team, which makes me think the TCR deal is where GRM will ultimately land.