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Like people said statistics can be manipulated to say anything.The best indication that the networks must be happy with figures is that Foxtel signed up for a new 5 year contract at around the previous amount at a time they were slashing and burning a lot of their rights deals because the numbers didn’t add up.Also that 7 are rumoured to be part of the ARG deal to buy the category.
I say this as someone who gave up watching Supercars on tv years back-and I have Foxtel- because I find the Skaife/Crompton old mates commentary unwatchable. |
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Laughable that IMG and Ch7 are said to be involved in different bids.
One could have owned it if they wanted for a song, one started the current system and got out low… Quote:
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It's just as well for Adderton. I was listening to him being interviewed on the radio this morning. It's the first time I can remember listening to him directly.
He came across nowhere near as offensive as how I've read quotes from him in articles in the past. He comes across pretty well, and I wouldn't begrudge him any success or good aspiration. But he's better off missing out on owning supercars as his view is inherently flawed. His view of the teams not having a good business model and that no good business would invest in a team is flawed because race teams are not a business. They're racing teams. They might have an ABN and be subject to business laws and workplace agreements. But they're not genuine businesses. Teams have to survive on their own without help. That's a part of the 'racing jungle". The point of racing is winning (And the glory from that), and ideally would come at so much of a cost that eventual mediocrity becomes inevitable. At which point other teams could create the opportunity to win. If he has a wonderful plan to increase the revenue to teams and capital of the rear-end teams, then the reality wouldn't have hit him until it's too late, when his idea fails. All his idea would do is increase the overall cost of competing in the series and particularly running at the back. It's what's occurred in the series since Cochrane joined. Adderton, for all his enthusiasm, hasn't yet understood that the ATCC (supercars) should effectively be a top-tier Improved Production. A class where you can spend your way to success but becoming a bit lame/embarrassing if you continue to do so. Despite the weakness of Improved Production, the strength is that it's the least expensive class to enter (You can take your time and work your way up to competitiveness). |
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From a class that was intended to be lightly modified road vehicles driven to the track... To perhaps half Supercar level spending, and allowing NASCAR engine blocks. I love watching it, I love the variety of cars, but most of them are just there to make up the numbers. |
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If you want to drive the track and race then Production Cars is the go, IPC sits between PC and Sports Sedans. If you have talent behind the wheel and the spanners then you can beat most of the big dollar cars regularly with a modest budget. The class has been dominated over the last 10 years by someone that has talent in and around the car plus a good budget, so the team deserves respect for how they work together in and outside the car. (not just because of the engine block they used) Last edited by Mr X; 26 Jul 2021 at 04:52. |
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.... & then there were two.
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/08/08...rrows-further/
Multiple sources have indicated that the pursuit of acquiring Archer Capital’s majority share in Supercars is now an out-and-out two-horse race between the Australian Racing Group and the Mark Skaife/TLA Worldwide partnership. |
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Adderton & Doohan in the same group....that will be interesting, I wonder if they will sell tickets?
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In the end the press can write what they like but if the money side of the equation does not stack up then the price comes down or the deal falls over. I just can't see how it is a 60 million dollar deal with the future of motor sport being as unpredictable as it is. Marke Skaife is definitely out of his league and I would have thought his past experiences would have taught him that.
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Interesting twist, maybe Adderton and Co not out of the running yet.
BRONCOS LINKED TO ADDERTON SUPERCARS BID https://autoaction.com.au/2021/08/10...-supercars-bid Quote:
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I can see a media company buying it for the content and no other reason. The others are dreaming because no one would finance $60 million for all of it let alone a majority share. The lower the price goes the less equity the teams have to play with also which is a kick in the teeth for them. It is one thing to run a business and entirely another to finance a buy in and then use the cashflow to service the finance that got you there. I simply don't think the series can support that sort of financing but I am happy to be proven wrong. There is also the return to those who are the principles, they aren't doing something like this for nothing. If it goes to a media company then n one of the above applies, the return is from the content and how it is used.
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