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Old 8 Nov 2017, 12:28 (Ref:3779465)   #916
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Excellent strategy by honda if true. Driver embarrasses us, we penalize him and his car. Must he why they have been terrible. That "gp2 engine" comment really stung. Good old sabotage.
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Old 9 Nov 2017, 23:58 (Ref:3779720)   #917
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Excellent strategy by honda if true. Driver embarrasses us, we penalize him and his car. Must he why they have been terrible. That "gp2 engine" comment really stung. Good old sabotage.
I'm surprised Honda didn't make a tight contract regarding PR stuff of things he can't do under any circumstances considering they made him the best paid driver on the grid. Or maybe they did so they are just deducting from his pay. Who knows.
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Old 10 Nov 2017, 10:24 (Ref:3779767)   #918
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Grid penalties only really hurt Honda, Alonso has nothing to lose with only two races left.
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I think a couple of gift wrapped grid penalties are being delivered to Alonso's garage for the next two rounds.
See the at the end of my comment. Was just 'having a laugh' as our UK folks would say.
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Old 19 Nov 2017, 20:07 (Ref:3781547)   #919
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Honda have already spent a year making themselves look like complete idiots, so who cares if they fume?
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Old 19 Nov 2017, 22:40 (Ref:3781568)   #920
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Honda have already spent a year making themselves look like complete idiots, so who cares if they fume?
A year? More like three. 4th time lucky?
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Old 20 Nov 2017, 00:44 (Ref:3781584)   #921
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Old 20 Nov 2017, 01:22 (Ref:3781589)   #922
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Proving they're complete idiots?
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In fact, the last Honda win was 2006 Hungarian GP, done by Jenson Button. The last decent season of Honda in Formula 1 up to today (for the moment).

2007-08 seasons of their team were simply strange... With the earthdreams "sponsoring" the car, that made a mistery what they had in their minds about the matter...

During their absence (2009-14) they were concentrated in their engines for Indycars and for their domestic F. Nippon-Super Formula series, then their racing department was active on that time.

And their 2015 return to F1 as an engine maker, is also very strange... With its ups-and-dows, it seems on the last races they're starting to work it out with this, but we have to wait to 2018 to see if that finally flourishes...

I'm sure Honda is still capable to do the things well, but it something that could not understand in this... That's why do not understand...
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They made progress last season, then it seemed to go down the swanny this season and only now are they anything like respectable
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As the answer no longer seems to be merely a resounding 'no' and McLaren are moving on to Renault engines, I shall remove the word 'Honda' from the thread title to usher in this new era.
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In fact, the last Honda win was 2006 Hungarian GP, done by Jenson Button. The last decent season of Honda in Formula 1 up to today (for the moment).

2007-08 seasons of their team were simply strange... With the earthdreams "sponsoring" the car, that made a mistery what they had in their minds about the matter...

During their absence (2009-14) they were concentrated in their engines for Indycars and for their domestic F. Nippon-Super Formula series, then their racing department was active on that time.

And their 2015 return to F1 as an engine maker, is also very strange... With its ups-and-dows, it seems on the last races they're starting to work it out with this, but we have to wait to 2018 to see if that finally flourishes...

I'm sure Honda is still capable to do the things well, but it something that could not understand in this... That's why do not understand...
Engines for IndyCar come under the auspices of Honda Performance Development, Inc., based in Santa Clarita, California, which is a wholly owned subsidiary of American Honda Motor Co., Inc. They've been responsible for Honda's involvement in the American Le Mans Series, Le Mans Series, the FIA World Endurance Championship and Super GT.

With Honda themselves being out of the loop for 5 years, that would go some way in explaining the lack of progress in F1. Maybe they should have gone to HPD.
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Old 25 Nov 2017, 19:30 (Ref:3782967)   #927
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Perhaps the biggest problem McLaren has, is the lack of a major sponsor(s) since Lewis left the team, and not precisely the fortunes of its engine suppliers...
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the automotive arm of mclaren is making solid profit, i'm sure it's not as much of a problem as it appears.
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the automotive arm of mclaren is making solid profit, i'm sure it's not as much of a problem as it appears.

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Perhaps the biggest problem McLaren has, is the lack of a major sponsor(s) since Lewis left the team, and not precisely the fortunes of its engine suppliers...
Iím sure this is why they are running the car with so much downforce. To try to fool prospective sponsors they have no power but are great in the corners - and all will thus be well with Renault. Hoping to sign a title sponsor who wonít find out until it is too late.
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