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Old 13 Oct 2017, 15:28 (Ref:3774031)   #91
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still it is a bit unfortunate though...a number of highly regarded juniors just got stuck/squeezed out behind a couple of really highly rated and successful graduates from their program....but such is life in sports.

looking forward to seeing what Hartley can do.

one of the highlights of this season has been the number of one off drives we got to see. Giovinazzi, Gasly, Button, Di Resta, and now Hartley...good times!
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Old 13 Oct 2017, 17:23 (Ref:3774054)   #92
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i hope he does well, he has been a star in WEC and certainly he has to do something after the porsche pull out of WEC
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Old 11 Nov 2017, 22:58 (Ref:3779976)   #93
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STR may need Honda engines for the last round in Abu Dhabi.

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Or is this simply a squabble over a five points?
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Old 12 Nov 2017, 07:06 (Ref:3780012)   #94
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STR may need Honda engines for the last round in Abu Dhabi.

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Or is this simply a squabble over a five points?
Ted Kravitz describes it as nothing to do with the points at all. The whole argument is centred around both being critical of each other, and STR alluding to deliberate sabotage of their engine performance.
If Renault do go ahead and withdraw supply, then RBR will no doubt be affected by the situation too.
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Old 12 Nov 2017, 09:58 (Ref:3780024)   #95
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Well, I can't see RBR having the Renault engine beyond 2018
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Renault seem a bit ballsier these days..
Having McLaren as a willing partner in your back pocket seems to play out to mean the Regie don’t need to take crap from team energy drink....
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Old 12 Nov 2017, 13:01 (Ref:3780053)   #97
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Yes I think the McLaren deal could be the killer blow for RBR
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Old 12 Nov 2017, 16:27 (Ref:3780065)   #98
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How funny would it be if Renault snatch away their engines from Red Bull
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In the last races, Honda is giving signs their engine is now better... Is not noted due to the heavy penalties, but is probably the Japanese company could do a happy surprise next year... Toro Rosso people could be glad about the matter. We'll see.
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it would not surprise me if the main RedBull team make a last moment switch to Honda Power for 2018.......either way they will have a hard 2018 season with Mclaren coming into the Renault fold, and 2018 is their last with Renault engines, so why not double up the efforts and do all they can to bring the Honda package on sooner???.....they have nothing to lose, as this looks like their only choice for the year after in 2019........if Porsche come along, it will be in 2020.
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it seems the Honda engine was most affected by the Castrol oils and fuel which was a last moment change made by McLaren.......perhaps Esso have some better potions for Honda to try.
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Press now saying honda will agree a deal with Mobil after mclaren......that must be good news
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While the change in fuel supplier by McLaren was probably a factor, I expect the issues with Honda ran much deeper. In short, a new fuel supplier is unlikely to turn Honda around.

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The original Mobil deal (from Shell) at McLaren was a part of an OEM supply deal with Mercedes, that was said to be worth significantly more than the size of the on-car sticker. The Castrol/BP branding doesn’t seem to be doing a whole lot relative to their opposition...
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RBR and STR have been using Mobile products this year. The only Renault powered teams to do so. The factory Renault team has been using BP/Castrol as of the start of the 2017 season.

Mobile ended it's partnership with McLaren for this year and linked up with RBR. Honda then linked up with BP/Castrol for 2017. Honda and BP/Castrol already have had commercial partnerships in other racing series such as WRC and WTCC.

In 2018 McLaren will stay with BP/Castrol, and be Renault powered. So this ties in with the factory Renault team which will also be using BP/Castrol. Leaving RBR the only Renault powered team not using BP/Castrol. Staying with Mobile instead. STR will also be staying with Mobile, but will be Honda powered. A request was made by RedBull for Honda to switch to Mobile for 2018. Honda agreed to the switch. Mobile were not so willing. One reason for the Mobile and McLaren split was because of McLaren's poor performances with the Honda engines.

Next year, Mobile will have two different engines (Honda and Renault) to develop specific fuels for. Not an easy task, as BP/Castrol found out this year having to develop fuels for both the Honda and Renault engines themselves. Mobile only had the one engine (Renault in the RBR and STR cars) for 2017, but will now have to work with two engine brands for 2018.

Shell will be supplying Ferrari, Sauber and Haas in 2018. All powered by Ferrari. Mercedes, Williams and Force India will be using Petronas with the Mercedes engines. BP/Castrol, Shell and Petronas all have just the one engine to concentrate on. Mobile on the other hand, will have a bigger workload in 2018.
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