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Old 8 Nov 2017, 09:57 (Ref:3779438)   #541
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Polestar now going fully electric... Kinda odd for a performance arm.
Not at all. ICEs poison the environment, it is not a thing a responsible Swede can endorse, ja?
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Old 8 Nov 2017, 11:07 (Ref:3779445)   #542
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Polestar now going fully electric... Kinda odd for a performance arm.
Hybrid. There's combustion in that Polestar 1.
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Old 11 Nov 2017, 04:26 (Ref:3779876)   #543
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Not at all. ICEs poison the environment, it is not a thing a responsible Swede can endorse, ja?
And most of the world gets electricity from coal... Batteries in hybrids are an environmental disaster - lets be careful not to pat ourselves on the back just for shifting where the emissions are. They are not eliminated in most places.
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And most of the world gets electricity from coal... Batteries in hybrids are an environmental disaster - lets be careful not to pat ourselves on the back just for shifting where the emissions are. They are not eliminated in most places.
Good point! Tesla and Prius enthusiasts should be mindful of their toxic batteries.
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Old 5 Jan 2018, 08:27 (Ref:3790770)   #545
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Of course it likely has a lot to do with product on sale, and a full dealership realignment, yet year on year Volvo was said to be off on sales by as much as 20% for 2017 v’s 2016...

Now only had they stayed in Supercar
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A dealership staffer I spoke to earlier this week told me they were considering turning the franchise in, they've held for close to 30 years.

The mandatory re-modelling of the showroom and service reception every 5 years is no longer stacking up against the dwindling sales, which started sliding mid-'16, having been one of NSW regional's best-selling Volvo dealers for '14/'15
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Old 5 Jan 2018, 09:53 (Ref:3790784)   #547
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Of course it likely has a lot to do with product on sale, and a full dealership realignment, yet year on year Volvo was said to be off on sales by as much as 20% for 2017 v’s 2016...

Now only had they stayed in Supercar
And what were the sales like in 2016 compared to 2015, and 2015 to 2014?
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Old 5 Jan 2018, 10:55 (Ref:3790793)   #548
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New car sales figures only make up part of the equation.

Generating interest in the brand, getting people into the dealership to buy simply anything, whether it be new or used, and then getting them through the service department after the sale, is all part of the bigger picture.
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Of course it likely has a lot to do with product on sale, and a full dealership realignment, yet year on year Volvo was said to be off on sales by as much as 20% for 2017 v’s 2016...

Now only had they stayed in Supercar
It's worth restating for the record that Volvo Cars Australia was still keen to be in Supercars, but head office in Sweden pulled the pin on the program.
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I suppose that Nissan sales tanking in Australia is a reflection of them not doing well in Supercars. As stated there is way more to car sales than a competition image. Volvo knew that their future plan was to ditch all IC motors beginning shortly, China has dictated a sales percentage of electric vehicles, I think something like 20% from the early 2020's and in the last few days laid down a fuel consumption policy that outlaws some cars. Seeing Volvo is owned by the Chinese I reckon they knew exactly where there future was and it was not racing cars with IC motors unfortunately for us as they definitely added substantially to the local competition. Get over it and move on might be better than what if's & maybe's being raked over.
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China? Electric cars? Surely not, it's Supercars that make or break manufacturers...
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A dealership staffer I spoke to earlier this week told me they were considering turning the franchise in, they've held for close to 30 years.

The mandatory re-modelling of the showroom and service reception every 5 years is no longer stacking up against the dwindling sales, which started sliding mid-'16, having been one of NSW regional's best-selling Volvo dealers for '14/'15
Sadly the remodelling demand is not unique to Volvo.
Arguably VW is worse in this area, with building required to be a design of their choosing, using the builder of their choosing, and the dealer’s only real choice is whether they are paying, or their landlord is...

Hard to imagine throwing something like $2m at a new building every 5 years can be financially viable

And for all the talk of Nissan volumes being off, despite being in Supercar, if you went to a dealership, you wouldn’t know they were racing, no pictures, no staff in racing shirts, nothing. They have a product problem too, yet not leveraging marketing assets surely will not help.
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Sadly the remodelling demand is not unique to Volvo.
Arguably VW is worse in this area, with building required to be a design of their choosing, using the builder of their choosing, and the dealer’s only real choice is whether they are paying, or their landlord is...

Hard to imagine throwing something like $2m at a new building every 5 years can be financially viable

And for all the talk of Nissan volumes being off, despite being in Supercar, if you went to a dealership, you wouldn’t know they were racing, no pictures, no staff in racing shirts, nothing. They have a product problem too, yet not leveraging marketing assets surely will not help.
And addressing the real reason they left went through to the keeper.
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as far as i can tell

these are volvo sales since 2012

2012 4375
2013 5174
2014 4693
2015 4943
2016 5878
2017 4681
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Old 6 Jan 2018, 00:28 (Ref:3790945)   #555
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Sadly the remodelling demand is not unique to Volvo.
Arguably VW is worse in this area, with building required to be a design of their choosing, using the builder of their choosing, and the dealer’s only real choice is whether they are paying, or their landlord is...

Hard to imagine throwing something like $2m at a new building every 5 years can be financially viable

And for all the talk of Nissan volumes being off, despite being in Supercar, if you went to a dealership, you wouldn’t know they were racing, no pictures, no staff in racing shirts, nothing. They have a product problem too, yet not leveraging marketing assets surely will not help.
I think VW has a 10 year cycle, from memory. VW are very particular about their showroom designs and layouts, offering very limited options and colour pallettes. You've pretty much got to design and build around the one franchise. Sucks if you've got several to appease... Honda doesn't typically place nice with others, either. Demands such as dedicated showrooms, and service departments...

For a manufacturer to be involved in motorsport, it needs to be activated across the dealer network. Whether it be on the TVs, posters, or merchandise. Energise passion for the brand, throw a GRM or Nismo hat in with the sale of a new car... Sure, it might not lead to a Commodore or Altima sale, but people do tend to trick out their Colorados and Navaras with several thousand dollars worth of accessories. Plenty of money to be made in that.
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