How to fix F1?

[Bcarr6]

Originally Posted by coppice

Easy - take it off the telly, Budgets shrink , no more races in totalitarian jokes like Azerbaijan, affordable entry fees for the likes of you and me.



And the bonus of the reduced risk of your hairdresser or boring brother in law sharing his views on Lewis's haircut. Job done .

What about all those team and track sponsors who pay a tidy sum to be broadcast to he world?

Without them F1 last more than a week

[S griffin]

I agree getting rid of some races that aren't worth going to, but let's keep it on telly and FTA at that

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by coppice

Easy - take it off the telly, Budgets shrink , no more races in totalitarian jokes like Azerbaijan, affordable entry fees for the likes of you and me.

And the bonus of the reduced risk of your hairdresser or boring brother in law sharing his views on Lewis's haircut. Job done .

Sorry couldn't resist replying to the last sentence!

Trouble is quite a lot of people seem to be quite interested in his non driving 'qualities'?

To my mind fixing F1 would be fairly simple and not really need to make wholesale changes to the weekend programme.

Essentially we absolutely need to get those huge front wings chopped down properly. After all when the 2019 changes were mooted last year, the front wing width was supposedly going to fit between the front tyres to reduce their aero efficiency?

Make the cars a bit shorter, they are ridiculously long and look quite cumbersome from side-on?

Reduce the manufacturers overbearing influence by bulldozing through reduction in the technology that has proven to be unecessary for the cost it takes, permitting them to supply only one extra team and encourage customer built engines. If the FIA have to 'cancel' F1, do away with silly concorde agreements and re-start it by inviting everyone to enter again, so be it. That would get a few more teams coming in and therefore more drivers.

[coppice]

Originally Posted by Bcarr6

What about all those team and track sponsors who pay a tidy sum to be broadcast to he world?

Without them F1 last more than a week

It would , but it would no longer feature the grotesque nonsense of the likes of Mercedes blowing half a billion quid a year.


And a little history lesson - GPs were held without major sponsorship in the sense we now understand it between 1906 and 1968 . And no telly until mid Seventies in any meaningful sense .

[EffectiveSprinkles]

But what does that lesson teach us? That the world was different when there was no television and internet? I think we all know that.

[S griffin]

You can’t uninvent the wheel (unless you are Amish!)

[loon]

[QUOTE=coppice;3852414]It would , but it would no longer feature the grotesque nonsense of the likes of Mercedes blowing half a billion quid a year.


At least Mercedes build a great car, look at all the hundreds of millons wasted by McLaren, Renault and Williams on the crap they build

[Hammerdown]

Just an idea on third cars. They can only be run by low grid teams, but have to be funded by top grid teams. So if Mercedes want to run a junior they fund Williams to run an extra car for them. Would it work?

[S griffin]

Work better than just giving all the teams it

[DaviePHD]

I have a solution, it's a bit savage but I reckon it's a winner.

Teams

• 8 teams, 3 cars each, 24 cars....
• Each teams 3rd car is to be driven by a driver with less than 2 years in F1....
• The running of the 3rd to be given to a 'junior team" with their own livery, sponsorship etc....
• a Junior Team and Drivers Championship....

Cars

• Diversity (look at LMP1 a few years ago, diesel, petrol, 2WD, 4WD, hybrids of both)....
• Push to Pass (handicapped based on current standings i.e. Lewis gets less than Lance)....

Drivers

• All drivers must score at least 20 points over per season or face losing their F1 Superlicence....
• Look beyond F2 and other single seaters for incoming drivers....

I reckon with this in place we would have the new drivers entering in more competitive cars (can you imagine if Leclerc was in a 3rd Ferrari?). We'd probably need Red Bull to take one for the team and reduce Toro Rosso to a 1 car junior team.

We could also have other teams potentially come and "have a go" at F1 running the 3rd car without having to make the leap of becoming a constructor (888 Australia or Joest Sport for example).

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by DaviePHD

I have a solution, it's a bit savage but I reckon it's a winner.

Teams

• 8 teams, 3 cars each, 24 cars....
• Each teams 3rd car is to be driven by a driver with less than 2 years in F1....
• The running of the 3rd to be given to a 'junior team" with their own livery, sponsorship etc....
• a Junior Team and Drivers Championship....

Cars

• Diversity (look at LMP1 a few years ago, diesel, petrol, 2WD, 4WD, hybrids of both)....
• Push to Pass (handicapped based on current standings i.e. Lewis gets less than Lance)....

Drivers

• All drivers must score at least 20 points over per season or face losing their F1 Superlicence....
• Look beyond F2 and other single seaters for incoming drivers....

I reckon with this in place we would have the new drivers entering in more competitive cars (can you imagine if Leclerc was in a 3rd Ferrari?). We'd probably need Red Bull to take one for the team and reduce Toro Rosso to a 1 car junior team.

We could also have other teams potentially come and "have a go" at F1 running the 3rd car without having to make the leap of becoming a constructor (888 Australia or Joest Sport for example).

Open the book and go back to the '70s.

[VIVA GT]

Originally Posted by Hammerdown

Just an idea on third cars. They can only be run by low grid teams, but have to be funded by top grid teams. So if Mercedes want to run a junior they fund Williams to run an extra car for them. Would it work?

What a brilliant and simple solution to the problem.
In fact it's so simple, it'll never get adopted into the complicated world of Formula One...

[Casper]

An interesting question but what is meant by fix? If the aim is to ensure whole of the field in racing for first place it won't happen, never has and never will. I want more basics and get rid of the huge resources of engineering that is evident on the pit walls, if they don't have that then they can't spend the money.

Limit how far forward the front wing of two elements can be. At the moment they are pushing the front wings out as far as they can to load the front axle more thus we get metronomic performance which is absolutely predictable.

Limit the engineering resources at the track, no data comms back to base at all from the track, two screens on the pit wall, one for the chassis and one for the PU, how much did they just save by doing that? If they can't manage it they can't run it and watch cars become far simpler.

No car to pit data logging at all. That way the driver can't be coached from the pit wall.

Stock block V8 of 4 litres, one turbocharger.

Pump fuel from a local servo, its only a road V8 fer god's sake not a moon rocket.

The budget problem is now solved. You know of course that the same teams will be roughly where they are now in the pecking order as talent always wins in motor sport. It surprises me that anyone thinks that the new coming regulations are going to change the pecking order because it won't happen. It might have happened years ago but not now.

By reducing the numbers of engineering personnel the lower end teams have a chance of picking up engineers who have a better chance of designing quicker cars as well which is a good thing.

[EffectiveSprinkles]

Originally Posted by Casper

The budget problem is now solved.

Hilarious.

I will come with someting myself later but this was just too good to pass up.

[Peter Mallett]

I keep looking at the title and......

Surely Flav and Piquet confirmed that F1 can be fixed.