[BTCC] BTCC 2019 - Brands Hatch GP - FINALE

[Evantra]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

...that I'm sure there are more than a few who will advise him to make sure the car following doesn't hit his arse on the way out.

Definitely agree, comes across as very arrogant and has a massive ego - at least he does to me. Undoubtedly he's a very quick driver and I do support him in the Goodwood events, but honestly won't be too bothered if he departs the BTCC.

Think Cammish & Cook will have the edge over the BMWs this / next weekend, and although I don't support them either it will feel a bit.. wrong if WSR don't win it.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by MrsDoubtfire

Heinous crimes indeed. So from that you make assertions about ego, bust ups with other drivers and that no one will be sorry to see him go? That’s quite a leap.

That was merely one example.

My opinion of AJ is based on multiple examples of the same nature, his social media tone, his attitude in interviews, the comments he has made to camera, and most importantly - the opinion of him that other paddock members have expressed.

[S griffin]

I remember Donny 2012, AJ and Newsham had a coming together. Newsham after the race goes to apologise to AJ, which he refuses to accept, saying something like ‘it doesn’t make what he did right’. Wasn’t impressed by his attitude there

[porsche962fan]

dunno why they put Tingram there he is too far back in the standings (61 points behind Turks) , even Cook is a bit of a stretch

seems Cammish is a Superman fan ?


and checked the wins , Turks had 5 wins this season, Cammish just one , so it would be impossible for him to beat on same points number

Jordan had 6 wins , same points number with Turks gives him the title

in short it means Turks wins the title if neither Cammish or AJ outscore him by more than 16 points

[S griffin]

Tingram still has a mathematical chance. It may only be mathematical, but there's still a chance. That's why they put him in there

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

dunno why they put Tingram there he is too far back in the standings (61 points )

There are 67 points available.

[porsche962fan]

but anyone reasonable knows it will impossible , even if Turks doesn't even race he would need the other 3 guys to have really bad races too

[S griffin]

Anything can still happen, however unlikely it is

[Craner Curves]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

but anyone reasonable knows it will impossible , even if Turks doesn't even race he would need the other 3 guys to have really bad races too

But to the casual fan they're advertising to, that looks very exciting. It's just for marketing purposes.

[Alfisti]

Exactly. Marketing, marketing, marketing.

Besides, the BMWs and Hondas may get teleported to another planet, leaving Tingram odds on favourite. Wait for the fat lady...

[RS67]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

but anyone reasonable knows it will impossible , even if Turks doesn't even race he would need the other 3 guys to have really bad races too

I can think of at least two races where almost half the grid has been wiped out.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by RS67

I can think of at least two races where almost half the grid has been wiped out.

'the shunt on the opening lap of race one, which included another ten drivers'

Brands, 2007.

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2007/08/22/matt-neal-fine-after-brands-crash/

[RS67]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

'the shunt on the opening lap of race one, which included another ten drivers'

Brands, 2007.

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2007/08/22/matt-neal-fine-after-brands-crash/

There has also been at least two during the Super Tourer years, Snetterton and Silverstone.

[sceptic]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

then what was it ?

Didn't AJ claim that Motorbase's car preparation was not good enough? Or was that somebody else?

[RS67]

Originally Posted by sceptic

Didn't AJ claim that Motorbase's car preparation was not good enough? Or was that somebody else?

It was all down to negotiations. Nothing more.

[Matt K]

As far as I remember AJ was regretting that he had to leave Motorbase but it was the only way for him as Shredded Wheat insisted on three cars with the same liveries.

[S griffin]

At least he didn’t part ways with Motorbase the way MJ did

[RS67]

Shredded Wheat sponsorship finishes this weekend.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by RS67

Shredded Wheat sponsorship finishes this weekend.

Story here.

[S griffin]

Wonder who will replace them? Or will they look to a manufacturer now?

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by S griffin

Wonder who will replace them? Or will they look to a manufacturer now?

Manufacturers in BTCC need a sponsor nowadays. Even WSR's deal is based on BMW UK, rather than the head office (in effect they are backed by GardX).

Bartrum has stated in the article that a search for a title sponsor has begun, so I would expect the same cars with a new sponsor in 2020 - unless he's calling everyone's bluff and he's already got something up his sleeve.

[Pickles]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Bartrum has stated in the article that a search for a title sponsor has begun, so I would expect the same cars with a new sponsor in 2020 - unless he's calling everyone's bluff and he's already got something up his sleeve.

You'd expect they've already got something in place or at least well on the way, these things don't happen overnight and DB will have known for a while that Nestle are pulling out.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Pickles

You'd expect they've already got something in place or at least well on the way, these things don't happen overnight and DB will have known for a while that Nestle are pulling out.

True - reading the words DB uses in the article, it suggests that there might already be a sponsor (not necessarily title) lined up, but they are holding the information to not detract from the 2019 sponsorship package.

'We’re 100% focused on ending the 2019 BTCC season on a high at our home circuit and to continue delivering the best possible results for our partners, and to give the Shredded Wheat brand a fitting farewell. I believe that we have one of the strongest packages in the BTCC. Our success over the years is in large part as a result of the partners that we have managed to attract and work with. I feel confident that we have everything in place to carry that proven sponsorship model into the years ahead.'

[S griffin]

He’s quite good at finding it is Dave. That 2015 season when he had to miss half of it was a blip

[RS67]

Originally Posted by S griffin

He’s quite good at finding it is Dave. That 2015 season when he had to miss half of it was a blip

That was down to sponsors deciding not to go through with it when it came to signing.