Groves selling his car?

[Goldeen]

Noticed on race car direct that Martin Groves and Paul Ransons car for sale? Is Martin retiring or getting a new car?

[rescue dude]

After him hinting at the awards ceremony at Shelsley that he may not be "retiring" i get the feeling that he will not be competing in his Gould if he gets a decent price for it.

If he doesn't get a good enough offer i think we'll see him out next year.

[blackx]

As my esteamed collegue has stated I reckon if the money isnt right he will pilot it again next year....

[Steve Wilkinson]

Originally Posted by blackx

As my esteamed collegue has stated I reckon if the money isnt right he will pilot it again next year....

More than likely; however with which engine installed?

[blackx]

Originally Posted by Steve Wilkinson

More than likely; however with which engine installed?

Obviously a competitive one....

I cant see that that's really important

[bentimingstrut]

Engine not important? Please elaborate?When was the last time a Judd powered car won a national round?

[b1ackcr0w]

May 2005, Karl Davison at Harewood. Chris Merrick, has racked up quite a few points with a Judd this year.

I think Steve's only half wrong and Ben's only half right. For a serious stab at the championhip, you need the right driver and car/lump combo. Simply because a serious stab means when you've got a seriously quick car, you've then got to drive it faster than Scotty, Scarey Trev, and hopefully Junior on a regular basis.

[Steve Wilkinson]

I may be wrong (and frequently am!) surely anyone who has come to the end of the lease deal with NME will have to sign-up for another 3 years?

Not something to rush into unless there is not only an advantage in horsepower but in cost!

[b1ackcr0w]

Originally Posted by Steve Wilkinson

I may be wrong (and frequently am!) surely anyone who has come to the end of the lease deal with NME will have to sign-up for another 3 years?

Not quite sure why they would be obliged to. Indeed, if there is a comparable lump out there somewhere, then a lighter chassis would mean the GR55 is now a gamble. Committing to NME for three years, pretty much means you're betting your budget that the combo is going to be competitive for the next three seasons. In 04/05 the call was right, but now it's a bit harder to make.

[Steve Wilkinson]

Originally Posted by b1ackcr0w

Not quite sure why they would be obliged to. Indeed, if there is a comparable lump out there somewhere, then a lighter chassis would mean the GR55 is now a gamble. Committing to NME for three years, pretty much means you're betting your budget that the combo is going to be competitive for the next three seasons. In 04/05 the call was right, but now it's a bit harder to make.

Sorry, didn't make myself clear! I was implying that if they chose the NME route I suspect that they would have to sign a 3 year deal unless they had the budget to buy the engine!

Either way as Blackc0w says it would be a gamble!

[Motorsport90]

looked up on hcmasters that he is nt gettin rid of it possible retirement but ranson defo out in it nxt yr poss tom new or deano? but rumors or who nos? if nt hes bck out nxt yr

[Sonic rescue]

Next year or this season?

[Steve Wilkinson]

Martin Groves & Paul Ranson have now bought the NME engine which is away being rebuilt.

Martin is "deciding" about running next season but it has been pointed out that only Ken Wharton has won 4 Hillclimb Championships on the trot so there is at least a 'new' challenge!

[Woolley]

I'd be grateful if we could avoid text speak, since I've just had several attempts at reading that message, motorsport90, and I still haven't fully understood it. I think it says Paul is running the car without Martin, in which case I believe your sources are probably incorrect.

[Sonic rescue]

Originally Posted by Woolley

I'd be grateful if we could avoid text speak, since I've just had several attempts at reading that message, motorsport90, and I still haven't fully understood it. I think it says Paul is running the car without Martin, in which case I believe your sources are probably incorrect.

Well atleast you tried Woolley. I gave up and had to get Jordan to explain it to me. . x

[Matt Dillon]

Originally Posted by Sonic rescue

Well atleast you tried Woolley. I gave up and had to get Jordan to explain it to me. . x

Yes but your blonde, what do you expect?

[Motorsport90]

looked up on hcmasters(website) that he is not getting rid of it possible retirement but ranson definately out in it this year possibly with tom new or deano? but rumors? if not groves is back out this year. heard it here 1st

[mcb666]

is the hcmasters (website),

seems like a windy up.

McB

[Woolley]

If it's a forum, and I suspect it is, remember the rules forbid linking to it...

I agree, Richard, sounds like a wind up to me too.

[blackx]

Originally Posted by Motorsport90

looked up on hcmasters(website) that he is not getting rid of it possible retirement but ranson definately out in it this year possibly with tom new or deano? but rumors? if not groves is back out this year. heard it here 1st

Nah.....

Heard that somewhere else a while back

[webbo]

Originally Posted by Motorsport90

looked up on hcmasters(website) that he is not getting rid of it possible retirement but ranson definately out in it this year possibly with tom new or deano? but rumors? if not groves is back out this year. heard it here 1st

Of course..........it don't have to be true to be a rumour !.

But in saying that, the quote above covers pretty much every outcome, so apart from PR tells us bugger all.