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Old 19 Jun 2018, 19:05 (Ref:3831950)   #10
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Originally Posted by Richard Casto View Post
Clearly Honda is totally in cahoots with Toro Rosso in an effort to pull the wool over Red Bull's eyes! Kudos to them for effortlessly fooling what was likely quite an extensive examination of all of the data by Red Bull.

Note... My post is sarcastic as I assume yours was as well?

Really any discussion about McLaren and Honda's past can only say that it was a mess. Issues on both sides. Honda weathered the abuse quite well while they had problems. So Honda is on the upswing now (anyone who believes otherwise has their head in the sand), but Red Bull is still a tough customer. So 2019 and beyond should be interesting. At a minimum, running two teams should give them twice the on-track data.

Overall... maybe if the 2017 Honda engine was mated to the 2019 Red Bull it will fit everyone's expectation of doom?

Richard
I think it's a little premature to say Honda are on the upswing. The European part of the season proper, is about to get underway this weekeend and the GPs will be coming thick and fast before the F1 Circus has its summer break. The French, Austrian and British GPs are on consecutive weekends, with a two week gap followed by back-to-back GPs in Germany and Hungary, so if they are indeed on the upswing, this is when they need to prove they are.

Interestingly, after last year's Canadian GP, TR were 5th in the WCC with 29 points, this year McLaren are 5th with 40 points.
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