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Old 5 Feb 2013, 04:37 (Ref:3199423)   #61
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Okay..Sutil put a champagne glass into the the neck of Eric Lux, use Google to find out who he is..

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The incident involving a champagne glass left Lux bleeding from a neck wound which required 24 stitches. The German driver was handed an 18-month suspended sentence and fined €200,000 (£167,224; $264,092) by a Munich court.

Sutil had admitted to unintentionally injuring Lux—saying he had meant to simply throw his drink over him and accidentally released the glass. But the court decided he had intentionally caused the injury to Lux.


GBH (or the German equivalent) is a serious offence, and Sutil can consider himself lucky to have received a "celebrity sentence" of a massive fine rather than a spell behind bars.

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We need to move on...
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Old 5 Feb 2013, 17:41 (Ref:3199674)   #62
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I read a suggestion somewhere that Sutil's conviction could affect his ability to travel to some countries on the calendar (China, conceivably?). This would have to be a relevant factor, if it's true.
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Old 5 Feb 2013, 19:04 (Ref:3199714)   #63
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they got lawyers and a travel office to sort this stuff out. actually i would be more surprised if this was the first time they ever had to get a visa for a team member with a checkered past.
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Old 5 Feb 2013, 21:32 (Ref:3199812)   #64
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More trouble for Kingfisher Airlines today,
http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/0...91402320130205

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http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/0...90L0GP20130122

Remember FI is totally dependent on funding from the Sahara and UB Groups, both of which have very serious debt & legal issues, with banks likely to call in the many billions of pounds of debt.

When that happens, or the banks take control of the companies, it is likely that funding for the F1 team will be cut.
This situation also explains why the team have been unable to attract a pay driver for their vacant seat, as companies do not wish to be associated with the toxic UB & Sahara groups.
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Old 5 Feb 2013, 22:23 (Ref:3199854)   #65
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More trouble for Kingfisher Airlines today,
http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/0...91402320130205

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http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/0...90L0GP20130122

Remember FI is totally dependent on funding from the Sahara and UB Groups, both of which have very serious debt & legal issues, with banks likely to call in the many billions of pounds of debt.

When that happens, or the banks take control of the companies, it is likely that funding for the F1 team will be cut.
This situation also explains why the team have been unable to attract a pay driver for their vacant seat, as companies do not wish to be associated with the toxic UB & Sahara groups.
An 18-car field does not sound very fun, especially considering FI was starting to get competitive.
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Old 5 Feb 2013, 22:24 (Ref:3199855)   #66
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I don't think Bernie would allow that to happen..
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Wait and see, I think you might be wrong there.

The team don't normally have pay drivers anyway, unless you count Sutil's old Medion deal which is no different from any other driver with a backer....but of course times change.
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Old 5 Feb 2013, 22:30 (Ref:3199860)   #68
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I read a suggestion somewhere that Sutil's conviction could affect his ability to travel to some countries on the calendar (China, conceivably?). This would have to be a relevant factor, if it's true.
And attracting sponsors to the team as well surely? It's not a coincidence that no other team wanted Sutil.

With both of these reasons I'm genuinely baffled as to why Sutil is a contender. Surely it's a no brainer seat for Bianchi with the subsidised Ferrari engines for 2014.
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I don't think Bernie would allow that to happen..
I can't help but feel it's been more luck than skill that F1's avoided this thus far. We could so easily get a 16-car grid for example.
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Old 5 Feb 2013, 22:57 (Ref:3199882)   #70
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I can't help but feel it's been more luck than skill that F1's avoided this thus far. We could so easily get a 16-car grid for example.
I have to agree Max Mosley said over and over again unless the spending is put under control, F1 will simply implode..

The teams need to cap the spending, our friend Marbot has been saying this for years..

This is why teams like Williams are so special, they exist to race F1...
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our friend Marbot has been saying this for years..
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This is why teams like Williams are so special, they exist to race F1...
You sense Catalunya was a popular victory last year throughout the paddock. Even Williams for all that they exist to race, as you said, have been astute enough to develop other things to generate income, although the Chavez money leaves me uncomfortable (or possibly makes me just relax and accept the inward-looking world of F1 with reluctant but satisfied acceptance.
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Yes...his daughters pocket money could fund 20 F1 teams..
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Old 5 Feb 2013, 23:41 (Ref:3199905)   #73
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Yep you are probaly right, F1 is war, made to pass as sport...
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I still presume Jules Bianchi will take the remaining drive...
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Yep you are probaly right, F1 is war, made to pass as sport...
i cant recall the exact phrasing of the quote by George Orwell but its something like, 'sport is war minus the shooting'.

not far from the truth when it comes to F1 imo.
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