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Old 25 Sep 2020, 07:44 (Ref:4006124)   #1
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Max Verstappen said it was hard for him to find a reason why Lewis Hamilton should jo

Max Verstappen said it was hard for him to find a reason why Lewis Hamilton should join him in Red Bull Racing.

Recently Eddie Jordan has made some public statements. One of them was about Hamilton. The former head of the F1 team suggested that the six-time world champion should give up his new contract with Mercedes and face Verstappen at Red Bull Racing.

Jordan's idea did not arouse much enthusiasm in the Dutchman.

- All I'm interested in is winning the championship - answered the question asked by Motorsport.com about Jordan's words. - Well, why would he do that? He wants to win the championship, so do I.

- He was trying to be on the right team to win the championship and he is in it. But let's wait what happens.
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Old 25 Sep 2020, 08:23 (Ref:4006129)   #2
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Eddie Rent A Quote Jordan. If you say enough silly things, one of them might eventually come true, and then we can all be amazed at how insightful he is.

Jordan talks as if Hamilton has something to prove. Verstappen is the one with something to prove. And yet he keeps signing long term contracts with Red Bull, instead of trying to get a seat in the best car on the grid. But that is another matter altogether. Eventually I'm sure he will win the WDC - and maybe several - whether that is with RBR or some other team. But while he is the hottest or 2nd hottest property in F1, perhaps his management should be trying to get him into a car that will deliver a WDC.
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Old 25 Sep 2020, 08:44 (Ref:4006130)   #3
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such a non story.

not sure why anyone pays attention to Jordan these days. Its not something that Red Bull would want to try and control so would never happen anyway

If Hamilton joined Red Bull or Max joined Mercedes it will benefit neither.

Its not like Hamilton has anything left to prove. The fact he has had 3 world champions as his teammates and beaten them all, along with his racing record speaks for itself.
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Old 25 Sep 2020, 09:09 (Ref:4006131)   #4
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Stranger things have happened, but I would be very surprised if Hamilton joined RBR. It's a nice idea, but let's not forget Red Bull seem to only be interested in drivers from their own programme. They already said Vettel was a no go. Why should Hamilton be any different?
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Old 25 Sep 2020, 09:22 (Ref:4006138)   #5
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While Verstappen is there joining RB would most likely expose the weaknesses of Hamilton.
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Old 25 Sep 2020, 09:23 (Ref:4006139)   #6
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Stranger things have happened, but I would be very surprised if Hamilton joined RBR. It's a nice idea, but let's not forget Red Bull seem to only be interested in drivers from their own programme. They already said Vettel was a no go. Why should Hamilton be any different?
i actually think there is a stronger chance Max will be trying to get into the Merc.

There is literally ZERO reason for Lewis to join RBR, and ZERO reason for RBR to want to upset the apple cart with Max

i would be highly surprised if Max's management weren't sniffing around Merc if there is a chance Bottas/ Hamilton were leaving the team
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Old 25 Sep 2020, 09:27 (Ref:4006142)   #7
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Total non-story. Just like the one about Hamilton joining Ferrari.....
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Its not like Hamilton has anything left to prove. The fact he has had 3 world champions as his teammates and beaten them all, along with his racing record speaks for itself.
Honestly he still has a lot to prove. 3 world champion team-mates yes, and technically he did finish ahead of Alonso in 2007, but only on tie-break. When you consider he was clearly the team's favoured driver, it looks less clear cut.

Jenson Button, solid but not spectacular. His only world title came mostly down to being in the right place at the right time with the Brawn GP car design.

And the only reason Nico Rosberg got anywhere near a world title is the shocking reliability that Hamilton suffered that year.

Top drivers don't have really great team-mates. Schumacher didn't, Senna didn't (usually). It just doesn't make sense from a teams point of view.

I'd say the best driver pairings we've seen in recent years are probably Alonso-Hamilton McLaren 2007 (and we all saw how that panned out) and Raikkonen-Massa at Ferrari, but certainly on the Finnish side of that garage there is a rather unique attitude and he is probably the one top driver of the last 20 years that would be able to be team-mate to anyone on the grid.

It's a real shame that Hamilton and Raikkonen were never team-mates. I think Hamilton would have had the upper-hand, but I also think Raikkonen would have been able to push him closer than any other team-mate he's had.
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Old 25 Sep 2020, 10:15 (Ref:4006149)   #9
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Honestly he still has a lot to prove. 3 world champion team-mates yes, and technically he did finish ahead of Alonso in 2007, but only on tie-break. When you consider he was clearly the team's favoured driver, it looks less clear cut.
HAHAHAHAHA pull the other one!

2 things, he went to mclaren as a number 2 driver, was given team orders to remain behing alonso in the first part of the season (rightfully), the team only gave equal treatment around canada.

the team clearly favoured hamilton? Proof please....because of course it makes perfect sense to pay millions of dollars to bring in a multiple world champion and then throw your resources behind a completely unproven rookie!!!! LOL!!!!

The fact a complete rookie could get close enough to Alonso to rattle him speaks volumes about hamiltons ability.

beat him on a technicality? no.....beat him

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Old 25 Sep 2020, 10:26 (Ref:4006150)   #10
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LOL, if Red Bull thought they could get Hamilton they certainly would. Think of the PR - which is why they are in the sport to start with.

Though, if that unlikely event came to pass, Merc would move heaven and earth to sign Max anyway.
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Honestly he still has a lot to prove. 3 world champion team-mates yes, and technically he did finish ahead of Alonso in 2007, but only on tie-break. When you consider he was clearly the team's favoured driver, it looks less clear cut.
He doesn't have anything to prove. But the weird thing about accumulated success in car racing, is that it can actually diminish the driver. It's hard to explain.

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Jenson Button, solid but not spectacular. His only world title came mostly down to being in the right place at the right time with the Brawn GP car design.
Well, that then makes up for being at the wrong place other times. Winning a championship isn't the be all, end all. IN Button's case, his season in 2011 validates him more than the WC does. Similar with Damon Hill, where races like Suzuka 94, Hungary 97 and Belgium 98 validate him more than the WC does.

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And the only reason Nico Rosberg got anywhere near a world title is the shocking reliability that Hamilton suffered that year.
Well you and I may be in for an exchange of posts, because you are blatantly wrong in this case.

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Top drivers don't have really great team-mates. Schumacher didn't, Senna didn't (usually). It just doesn't make sense from a teams point of view.
That's usually the teams directive.

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I'd say the best driver pairings we've seen in recent years are probably Alonso-Hamilton McLaren 2007
It's interesting to recall Pedro de la Rosa's Beyond The Grid interview, where he says this pairing is the best in F1 history.

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Old 25 Sep 2020, 11:09 (Ref:4006155)   #12
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agree about Rosberg amongst other things. he ABSOLUTELY deserved his world championship. sure Hamilton suffered poor reliability, but thats nothing unusual, others have the same. Rosberg put together a great season, it also showed how much it took out of him to win, retiring straight after. By his own admission he had to put his entire life on hold to do it, something he couldnt have done again.

Ive actually grown to admire rosberg more and more since his retirement and realise how underappreciated he was.
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lol i meant i was agreeing with yourself about Rosbergs championship. He wasnt lucky, it was hard work that won him the championship
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agree about Rosberg amongst other things. he ABSOLUTELY deserved his world championship. sure Hamilton suffered poor reliability, but thats nothing unusual, others have the same. Rosberg put together a great season, it also showed how much it took out of him to win, retiring straight after. By his own admission he had to put his entire life on hold to do it, something he couldnt have done again.

Ive actually grown to admire rosberg more and more since his retirement and realise how underappreciated he was.

I think Bottas has shown how good Rosberg was. Yes he required a bit of luck to win the title, but luck is no good if you canít make the most of the opportunity presented to you. He really was prepared to go that bit extra to win the title too. As well as that, even if Hamilton was winning, Rosberg was always there or thereabouts 9 times out of 10.
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