Winton Historic Races - 2007

gcalvert · 29 May 2007, 05:19 (Ref:1923411)

Like does anyone one have anything to talk about this years Winton?

johnh875 · 29 May 2007, 08:06 (Ref:1923489)

I was going to start a new thread yesterday (well I've started it for you now, John! - JT) but haven't finished going through my photos yet or uploading any, so I thought I would wait - imagine my confusion upon seeing this thread up in the top of the list, I was beginning to doubt my sanity...

I went up on the Sunday this year, it was a fantastic sunny day and not too hot, the racing was mostly very good but there was a large number of red flags thrown for some reason, mainly in the morning (6 I think). In at least one case (the Group Nc race) it was a kneejerk reaction to a car spinning off the track, as the car subsequently got going again but the damage was done by then. The first couple of times they reformed the grid and restarted the races - you can imagine the delays when there were 27 events (which included the lunchtime demonstration I think) to get through, so this did not last long and they day ended on time if not early.

A fairly unique feature of this event is the presence of the motorbikes and sidecars in addition to the cars, and they really add a lot to the day.

As I mentioned, I did get a few photos (including a couple of yours and Pete Brennan's cars Geoff) even if a few were very poor - experimenting with a new camera, no a lot more megapixels does not make photos taken with digital zoom any better!

I'll put up a couple of photos for now but the rest will have to wait for later in the week.

The Kieft Climax V8 GP car

The Climax V8

Talbot Lago

Camaro with a bit of Allan Moffat-esque battle damage

I don't know that this car ever raced, but I am sure people would be interested in seeing Peter Brock's first car, an Austin 7. It has recently been rediscovered and restored (with the help of the A7 club who also run this meeting), and is destined to go into a museum, not sure where though.

More to come, any special requests?

Robert Bailey · 29 May 2007, 08:35 (Ref:1923511)

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Originally Posted by gcalvert

Like does anyone one have anything to talk about this years Winton?

How much track time did you get over the 2 days?

Bullett · 29 May 2007, 09:25 (Ref:1923555)

Hey John875 do you have any of Nc 23? Please share any reports and pics! John what happened to Hubbard? Cheers

And Robert..http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/re...7/05/2007.WINT

Robert Bailey · 29 May 2007, 22:58 (Ref:1924246)

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Originally Posted by Bullett

Hey John875 do you have any of Nc 23? Please share any reports and pics! John what happened to Hubbard? Cheers

And Robert..http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/re...7/05/2007.WINT

Bullett..30 minutes.

Bullett · 30 May 2007, 00:05 (Ref:1924271)

Supposed to get 1 qualifying and 3 races all of 15 minutes each session...So around 60 minutes over the weekend

gcalvert · 30 May 2007, 00:56 (Ref:1924288)

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Originally Posted by Robert Bailey

How much track time did you get over the 2 days?

15minutes Saturday morning.
5 laps in the afternoon
2 + 4 Sunday Morning due to a red flag, which at least in our race was necessary with a car on the apex of Penrite.
6 Sunday afternoon which was shortened by 2, very much unappreciated and unnecessary as it would have saved them 2 minutes max.

gcalvert · 30 May 2007, 01:09 (Ref:1924293)

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Originally Posted by johnh875

I was going to start a new thread yesterday (well I've started it for you now, John! - JT) but haven't finished going through my photos yet or uploading any, so I thought I would wait - imagine my confusion upon seeing this thread up in the top of the list, I was beginning to doubt my sanity...

Had the same response, thought it was 2007 thread...

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Originally Posted by johnh875

As I mentioned, I did get a few photos (including a couple of yours and Pete Brennan's cars Geoff) even if a few were very poor - experimenting with a new camera, no a lot more megapixels does not make photos taken with digital zoom any better!

Look forward to seeing what you have. We were tucked away in the garages, never fun really, so i really didn't see to much in the way of other cars this year.

Robert Bailey · 30 May 2007, 03:19 (Ref:1924317)

I know we all do what we enjoy,I am so glad I gavethe racing away.Example the week/end before a group of us put our fun cars on the ferry and did 1,000ks over 2 days in Tasmania and then home Sundy night.

Bullett · 30 May 2007, 10:33 (Ref:1924513)

It amazes me that you get such little track time...especially with a short laptime

gcalvert · 30 May 2007, 11:04 (Ref:1924537)

Too many events. That is pretty typical of all historic meetings. Too much interest from competitors. Too many classes. Ruined by our own success I guess. Still the spectators get more value for money than a season of V8 taxis.

gcalvert · 30 May 2007, 11:06 (Ref:1924541)

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Originally Posted by Robert Bailey

I know we all do what we enjoy,I am so glad I gavethe racing away.Example the week/end before a group of us put our fun cars on the ferry and did 1,000ks over 2 days in Tasmania and then home Sundy night.

I love a great drive in Tassie. But their is a big difference between a nice drive around Tassie and a real race car around a track. Plenty of time for both....

Robert Bailey · 30 May 2007, 11:35 (Ref:1924558)

IMO its a waste of time and money.

Robert Bailey · 30 May 2007, 11:38 (Ref:1924559)

I reckon we hit higher speeds then you would on the Winton short track.

gcalvert · 30 May 2007, 12:06 (Ref:1924581)

Really depends what you are driving. And to be frank if you do that on open public roads you should think about it...IMO

Robert Bailey · 30 May 2007, 12:15 (Ref:1924588)

oh well a 1910 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost needs a long straight to hit 110 ks.And at a Million dollar value its driven well IMO.

gcalvert · 30 May 2007, 21:03 (Ref:1924954)

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Originally Posted by Robert Bailey

oh well a 1910 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost needs a long straight to hit 110 ks.And at a Million dollar value its driven well IMO.

Exactly what Tassie is perfect for.

Pete Brennan · 30 May 2007, 21:56 (Ref:1924996)

Great time was had by all,except for me in the Sat arvo race.Put my RT4 nose in where i should not have,one of our own forum members ran over it,not his fault,i was just testing the water.pic attached but not sure if it can be shown,if it is usable please credit SD Pics for the shot. (Pete, only if you own the copyright or have permission from the copyright holder, which I'm assuming you haven't so unfortunately, I have to delete it - JT). It was a bit tight in turn one

Robert Bailey · 31 May 2007, 01:16 (Ref:1925080)

What is the new group called SH all about?

DAVID PATERSON · 31 May 2007, 07:29 (Ref:1925178)

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Originally Posted by Robert Bailey

What is the new group called SH all about?

It's for Group S type cars with an actual racing history.

Robert Bailey · 31 May 2007, 08:22 (Ref:1925221)

up to what year?and is overseas history ok?

I16 · 31 May 2007, 08:37 (Ref:1925243)

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Originally Posted by Robert Bailey

What is the new group called SH all about?

International Touring ....... ?

Pete Brennan · 31 May 2007, 22:07 (Ref:1925725)

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Originally Posted by Pete Brennan

Great time was had by all,except for me in the Sat arvo race.Put my RT4 nose in where i should not have,one of our own forum members ran over it,not his fault,i was just testing the water.pic attached but not sure if it can be shown,if it is usable please credit SD Pics for the shot. (Pete, only if you own the copyright or have permission from the copyright holder, which I'm assuming you haven't so unfortunately, I have to delete it - JT). It was a bit tight in turn one

Thanks John,I now have the permission from Steven Duggan at SD-Pics for the use.

gcalvert · 1 Jun 2007, 00:43 (Ref:1925804)

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Originally Posted by Pete Brennan

Thanks John,I now have the permission from Steven Duggan at SD-Pics for the use.

Would have been a pitty to lose that photo....

DAVID PATERSON · 1 Jun 2007, 02:03 (Ref:1925833)

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Originally Posted by Robert Bailey

up to what year?and is overseas history ok?

I'm not sure, try www.cams.com.au and click on historics or try www.hsrca.org.au

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