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Old 19 Dec 2015, 18:10 (Ref:3598810)   #10
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Originally Posted by deadsquirrel View Post
We all rely on radios far too much these days - a flaggie with a decent set of mark 1 eyeballs should be able to pick up the flag deployment/withdrawl without need for radio call. A radio call _MIGHT_ speed things up slightly, and help out a lone flaggy, but its not a requirement in my eyes.
Only works if you can see the start line. After that it's going to take a time for each post in turn to see the flag, put down what they're currently holding and pick up and put out something else. So it can never happen simultaneously all around the circuit. Even assuming the flaggie happens to be looking the right way when it comes out, and if you're on your own sod's law says you'll be looking at something else.

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Haven't we been down this route before 10/15 years ago?

It was called the Battenberg Flag

That worked well didn't it?
Mainly because we didn't us it properly. It was an 'ambush the drivers at the start line' flag.

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For the sake of some drivers who may be following this thread I'd like to make the point that our banging on and on about yellows actually has the best interests of drivers in mind.

For drivers who have paid large fees to take part, I assume it is highly upsetting when most of the race is spent doing the equivalent of following a blue-rinse old lady in a Morris 1000 down a country lane.

The problem is caused by the selfish actions of a minority of drivers. There is no safety issue. Not really. If I, as a Post Chief, see that the lunatic fringe is abroad, I simply tell my marshals to stay put and call for a Safety Car. Why should I send the Orange Troops out to help people who don't seem to care about us? Well, I don't. It's as simple as that. We want to get drivers racing again as fast as possible with minimum time loss. And we will do this at personal risk. But there is a line beyond which we will not go. Nor should we.

A SC must be the worst of all driver options. It destroys several race laps and the leaders loose any distance advantage they have gained. It doesn't even work; the tail-enders are still at race speed playing catch up.

The Code 60 idea (if it can be successfully used on circuits without the technology enjoyed by cash rich territories) will be less invasive, will help the leaders maintain their distance advantage and stop tail-enders gaining an unfair advantage in time, if not position. But it will still mess up everyone, and probably for more than one lap.

Obeying yellows, on the other hand, means that only one sector is affected and after the green, drivers can roar off to their hearts content to the benefit of all.

So the actions of a few drivers are messing it up for all the other drivers. Therefore I have this question: Why aren't the majority of decent drivers playing merry-hell with these people?. Unless I've missed it somewhere, I don't see drivers as a whole campaigning for change. Do, please, correct me if I'm wrong, but if some #@&se had caused me to lose half the value of my race fee - I'd have words with him. Or her.

So here we have the wrong people - marshals and officials - trying to help drivers to help themselves with new flag regs every season, knowing full well they are trying to fix the symptoms not the cause.

Drivers! - heal thyselves. It's your money you're wasting.

This isn't a rant. It's an appeal for common sense to the very people who are most effected by a self-generated problem.
That. Exactly that.
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