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Old 21 Nov 2013, 12:44 (Ref:3334774)   #1
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Erebus Driver Safety E-Cell

Could this become standard equipment. Will be interesting to see if the seat manufacturers step their game. Costs way more?

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Erebus Motorsportís team manager David Stuart, takes a look at the E-Cell or driver safety cell which takes driver seat protection a step further.
http://www.speedcafe.com/2013/11/21/...-talking-tech/

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Old 22 Nov 2013, 09:30 (Ref:3335144)   #2
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Could this become standard equipment. Will be interesting to see if the seat manufacturers step their game. Costs way more?


http://www.speedcafe.com/2013/11/21/...-talking-tech/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=6uBeV69rPiU
Wayyyyyyyyy more expensive, but really, who cares? It's a key safety item and not the area to cut corners.
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Old 22 Nov 2013, 10:13 (Ref:3335159)   #3
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Wayyyyyyyyy more expensive, but really, who cares? It's a key safety item and not the area to cut corners.
Highlights safety deficit in Utes and what CAMS/FIA hasn't done to protect sport since Brock was killed.
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 04:34 (Ref:3335515)   #4
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So, recon Courtney wants one of these?
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The re-design of the side intrusion, which has largely remained unchanged on the COTF chassis does not appear to be as effective as one would hope.

The move to the E-Cell might be a good idea.
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Old 23 Nov 2013, 05:53 (Ref:3335542)   #6
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however the side intrusion hold up well today. In what was a pretty extreme example

I dont think it would have done that as well in previous versions
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however the side intrusion hold up well today. In what was a pretty extreme example

I dont think it would have done that as well in previous versions
For sure, it's an improvement. But with the concept of efficient driver changes, and the requirement for functioning doors, it's still a compromised design. The NASCAR solution is probably the best idea for a tin top.
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For sure, it's an improvement. But with the concept of efficient driver changes, and the requirement for functioning doors, it's still a compromised design. The NASCAR solution is probably the best idea for a tin top.
Let them climb in through the sunroof
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Hate to think what would have happened if today's crash was replicated in club level road-based machinery with standard seating position and road legal removable door bars
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For those experienced in cage design, why wouldn't V8SC have specified NASCAR-style door bars for the driver's side? Must be a good technical reason they prefer the cross bar design. Can't just be about driver change efficiency (I hope!!!)

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Old 23 Nov 2013, 10:37 (Ref:3335626)   #12
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The current design is half-half.

V at the top, NASCAR-ish at the bottom.

The incident in question saw a fair portion of a substantial part of the #34 car, i.e. the left rear wheel assembly, penetrate the apature where the driver enters and exits the confines of the roll cage.

The essence of V8SC racing is the two-driver endurance races. Making the apature smaller may be detrimental to the endurance concept. Mr Stuart of SBR/Erebus made mention in a recent video clip, that the implementation the E-Cell did in fact hamper the efficiency of driver changes, but in my opinion, it would be a compromise the whole field would accept.
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however the side intrusion hold up well today. In what was a pretty extreme example

I dont think it would have done that as well in previous versions
I may be mistaken but I thought I saw a pic of the inside of the car and it shows the rollcage sideintrusion bars broke around 2 inches from where the cross is welded in.... I wouldn't say it held up "well"
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I was a little shocked to see the bars had just sjeered off where the support gussets are welded on. It's hard to say how good or bad it was though, as that impact was something seldom seen. All in all, we easily could have seen a very serious injury yesterday and for Courtney to have walked away from that collision I think it could have been a far worse situation.

If teams are bringing in ground breaking safety technology that only 3 cars on the grid are using, that has been proven, you would think the category would mandate its use though.
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Sounds like heavy damage to the cage on #22, got pics or links?
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