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Old 24 Feb 2021, 11:39 (Ref:4036605)   #7891
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wrong again,
https://assets.motorwebs.com/audi/brochure/R8.pdf
2017 R8 V10 and V10plus (basically second gen R8) wheelabse 104.3in

https://zeperfs.com/en/fiche5170-lam...n-lp-610-4.htm
https://www.lamborghini.com/it-en/mo...an/huracan-evo
huracan 610-4 and hurcan evo wheelbase 103.1in

it's not if you keep on writing they have the same wheelbase 100 times, then they will get the same wheelbase for magic...
it's not if you keep on writing they have a different wheelbase 100 times then the chassis' must be different, then they will get a different chassis for magic...

A plot twist for you - having a different wheelbase does not mean you have a different chassis.

You are focusing on the difference in wheelbase as being proof that the cars do not share a chassis. In that case - can you explain the following statement:
'A new aluminium and carbon-fibre chassis shared with the Lamborghini Huracan means it weighs 50kg less than its predecessor, but is 40 per cent stiffer. [...] The chassis is shared with the Lamborghini Huracan (although the wheelbase is stretched by 3cm), and uses the same combination of aluminium and carbon-fibre.'

Or maybe more pertinent, comments from Dr Ulrich Hackenberg:

'the new Huracan chassis is adaptable and will underpin a series of models. In the Huracan's case it amounts to a 50 per cent increase in stiffness compared with the Gallardo's all-aluminium design with a simultaneous 10 per cent reduction in weight. Like the Gallardo and current R8, the engineering expertise that's gone into it comes out of Audi's Neckarsulm plant and combines Audi Space Frame aluminium production techniques with new productionised carbon fibre. In the Huracan's case - and the next R8's - it'll be a chassis for mid-engined cars with longitudinal engines and four-wheel drive. The initial plan is four models across two brands using this chassis.'

So why do I assert that the Huracan and R8 use the same chassis, because the former Board Member for Technical Development at Audi says that is the case.
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Old 24 Feb 2021, 11:57 (Ref:4036614)   #7892
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This is drifting away from the threads subject
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Old 24 Feb 2021, 12:07 (Ref:4036618)   #7893
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This is drifting away from the threads subject
Drifting - we've drifted and we're beached on a tropical island.

(Apologies for derailing the thread - I'll post no more on the topic of two cars with the same chassis).
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Old 24 Feb 2021, 12:11 (Ref:4036620)   #7894
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Yep. Time to move on folks.....
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Old 24 Feb 2021, 12:44 (Ref:4036632)   #7895
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it's not if you keep on writing they have a different wheelbase 100 times then the chassis' must be different, then they will get a different chassis for magic...

A plot twist for you - having a different wheelbase does not mean you have a different chassis.

You are focusing on the difference in wheelbase as being proof that the cars do not share a chassis. In that case - can you explain the following statement:
'A new aluminium and carbon-fibre chassis shared with the Lamborghini Huracan means it weighs 50kg less than its predecessor, but is 40 per cent stiffer. [...] The chassis is shared with the Lamborghini Huracan (although the wheelbase is stretched by 3cm), and uses the same combination of aluminium and carbon-fibre.'

Or maybe more pertinent, comments from Dr Ulrich Hackenberg:

'the new Huracan chassis is adaptable and will underpin a series of models. In the Huracan's case it amounts to a 50 per cent increase in stiffness compared with the Gallardo's all-aluminium design with a simultaneous 10 per cent reduction in weight. Like the Gallardo and current R8, the engineering expertise that's gone into it comes out of Audi's Neckarsulm plant and combines Audi Space Frame aluminium production techniques with new productionised carbon fibre. In the Huracan's case - and the next R8's - it'll be a chassis for mid-engined cars with longitudinal engines and four-wheel drive. The initial plan is four models across two brands using this chassis.'

So why do I assert that the Huracan and R8 use the same chassis, because the former Board Member for Technical Development at Audi says that is the case.



Buddy wasn't trying to listen, and I knew we'd drift off topic which is why I let this go. Thanks for this though.



Anyway, I'll leave it at the Huracan GT3 and R8 GT3 will probably be far more dissimilar than the Audi/Porche LMdh cars, which imo is a downright tragedy. Might as well be LMP2h+ or - really.
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Old 24 Feb 2021, 15:28 (Ref:4036679)   #7896
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Goodbye favourable BOP to LMDH...

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2021/0...from-2023.html
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Old 24 Feb 2021, 15:30 (Ref:4036683)   #7897
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Didn't that go out the window when French manufacturer was confirmed in LMH?
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Old 24 Feb 2021, 15:34 (Ref:4036685)   #7898
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Didn't that go out the window when French manufacturer was confirmed in LMH?
Possibly, but this will be a whole New Level. Ferrari will want the Centenary Trophy, and won't want to be beaten by a cut-price-cheapo competitor. Not sure Pug would have the same influence. But we'll see...
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Old 24 Feb 2021, 15:38 (Ref:4036691)   #7899
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Wow! Finally! Ferrari returns!

Please call it the 333SPH
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Old 24 Feb 2021, 15:42 (Ref:4036703)   #7900
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Old 24 Feb 2021, 15:56 (Ref:4036720)   #7901
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This seems to be on multiple threads Ayse, not surprising as it's exciting news, but should it be amalgamated onto one thread ? Already making my plans for 23 !!!
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Old 24 Feb 2021, 16:17 (Ref:4036730)   #7902
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Wow! Finally! Ferrari returns!

Please call it the 333SPH
SPH might not be the finest moniker
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I do sort of hope that this may cause Audi and Porsche to change their mind on LMH vs LMDH, though I highly doubt it.
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This seems to be on multiple threads Ayse, not surprising as it's exciting news, but should it be amalgamated onto one thread ? Already making my plans for 23 !!!
Yes indeed, I thought that earlier, but there was already such a proliferation of posts in about 4-5 threads that it was too much of a headache to do it. I'll start a new thread.

Edit. I see Mike has already done it. All Ferrari comments to the new thread please.

https://www.tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=155948
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