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Old 2 Jul 2004, 13:56 (Ref:1023737)   #1
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Ligier back in business....!

Although not 'strictly' an F1 story, (I've rapped my own knuckles) I thought I would post it here, as it's an evocative name from the F1 past.

Guy Ligier has bought a major stake in the Martini racing car constructor and will be producing formula cars, initially for race schools, but Martini used to be a strong competitor in the junior formuale so maybe the future is there?

Also involved is another blast from the F1 past, and well known from his Reynard days - one Rick Gorne. The car sounds a bit 'tidy' too.

"The first new car which is to be called the Ligier MK84, has been developed under the direct responsibility of Tico Martini. It is a brand-new concept of inexpensive racing car design combining a very stiff and strong carbon monocoque with six-speed semi-automatic sequential F1-type gearbox with steering wheel-mounted paddle shift, and inexpensive standard parts to ensure minimal maintenance costs."
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns13164.html
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Old 2 Jul 2004, 14:00 (Ref:1023740)   #2
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Theres some speculation Ligier-Martini may do an F3 car next year.
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Old 2 Jul 2004, 14:27 (Ref:1023760)   #3
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Are there any pictures available of this new car?
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Old 2 Jul 2004, 14:35 (Ref:1023766)   #4
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small acorns
who knows if F1 ever becomes a sensibly priced (that's a relative term of course ) we may see that name gracing F1 grids...Laffite and the Ligier were firm favourites of mine in the late 70's

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Old 2 Jul 2004, 15:10 (Ref:1023802)   #5
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Good to see someone of his former standing once again involved in producing racing cars. You never know, Ligier may once again grace the F1 grids in the future.
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Old 3 Jul 2004, 01:40 (Ref:1024235)   #6
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I hope so , I liked the Ligier team and Im sure he would be welcomed back with open arms , but he has a long road ahead of him if thats his plan
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If my old and failing mind is correct Martini had an F1 car in the '70s with one R.Arnoux doing the steering.
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If my old and failing mind is correct Martini had an F1 car in the '70s with one R.Arnoux doing the steering.
It did and it was a piece of junk. The guy that has run ORECA for years was the team manager.
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Theres some speculation Ligier-Martini may do an F3 car next year.
They will do
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That's good news then!
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It did and it was a piece of junk. The guy that has run ORECA for years was the team manager.
You say Hughes de Chaunac???
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define inexpensive, certainly not paddle shift gear systems

Good news to see more constructors though..maybe knock down the prices of others cars if they produce some good cars.
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It did and it was a piece of junk. The guy that has run ORECA for years was the team manager
That would be 78, not a good year to start a new F1 team as the ground effect revolution was just starting.

There is a brief history of the team here Martini[/URL]Martini

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I miss Ligier! #26 will always mean Ligier to me. That team was the best little team ever, something F1 is missing. I guess Jordan is close.
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