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Old 21 May 2013, 23:54 (Ref:3251426)   #151
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Just curious, what is it that everyone dislikes about the 97-98 era of U.S. sports car racing? This was before I started watching, and pretty much the only years that I don't have any information on.
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Old 22 May 2013, 01:42 (Ref:3251466)   #152
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Just curious, what is it that everyone dislikes about the 97-98 era of U.S. sports car racing? This was before I started watching, and pretty much the only years that I don't have any information on.
Who says "everyone dislikes" the 97-98 era? Lots of Riley & Scott's, Ferrari 333SPs, Panoz GT1s, etc. I remember it as a pretty fun time for US racing fans. I guess the perception was that the racing wasn't very good because it was the last years of the IMSA series and it was replaced by GrandAm and ALMS and supposedly split the fan base.

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Old 22 May 2013, 04:09 (Ref:3251483)   #153
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Just curious, what is it that everyone dislikes about the 97-98 era of U.S. sports car racing?
"Who the hell is Andy Evans?" I would suspect.
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Old 22 May 2013, 06:40 (Ref:3251510)   #154
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How would you rank your favorite classes in sportscar racing? Here is what I have from favorite to least favorite

1. GTE/GTLM (obviously)
2. FIA GT3 (very very close 2nd)
3. P1 (I like that these cars are mostly coupes now)
4. DP (only because of the Corvette DPs which I like, lose the generic rileys please)
5. P2 (find this class boring, won't miss it if disapears from USCR)
6. PC (find this boring too)
7. GTC/GTD (field fillers, not considered top level sportscar class)
Interesting question, I've never thought about it...
For me right now it's something like this :

1. GTE
2. GT3
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3. P1
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4. P2
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5. anything else.

Hopefully in the next couple of years when more people join P1 it'll climb to the first spot of my list where it belongs, but right now there is not enough competition and GTE and GT3 classes are doing pretty well being what I enjoy the most.
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Old 22 May 2013, 10:42 (Ref:3251582)   #155
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How would you rank your favorite classes in sportscar racing? Here is what I have from favorite to least favorite

1. GTE/GTLM (obviously)
2. FIA GT3 (very very close 2nd)
3. P1 (I like that these cars are mostly coupes now)
4. DP (only because of the Corvette DPs which I like, lose the generic rileys please)
5. P2 (find this class boring, won't miss it if disapears from USCR)
6. PC (find this boring too)
7. GTC/GTD (field fillers, not considered top level sportscar class)
1. P1 - the top level
2. GTE - close battle between a lot of manufacturers.
3. P2 - So many cars (albeit the same ones)
4. GT3 While BoP annoys the hell out of me in general, it works for GT3 style racing in Blancpain.
5.GTC/PC - they may be field fillers but it can be great racing.


As for DP, I just won't bother. If I could see more of it I'd imagine the Super GT classes would be in there.
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Old 22 May 2013, 13:40 (Ref:3251663)   #156
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Just curious, what is it that everyone dislikes about the 97-98 era of U.S. sports car racing? This was before I started watching, and pretty much the only years that I don't have any information on.

The 94-98 era was one of the low points of fan interest in sportscars. Pretty much just Riley&Scotts and Ferraris. The Ferraris were interesting at least.

As far as my list.

1. P1
2. GT(E)
3. GT3
4. P2

The rest just isn't intersting.
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Old 22 May 2013, 14:08 (Ref:3251683)   #157
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P1
GTE
SuperGT
P2
GT3
DP
GTD (?)

P1 is the pinnacle, it is also just about the only form of motorsport at the moment that encourages any kind of variety. Just about every other form of 'closed wheel' racing, and even rallying, has gone down the route of silhouettes of mass production cars covering essentially identical cars underneath, with grossly over flared ugly bodywork. I'm thinking WTCC, WRC, DTM, etc, it appears to be the way the car makers want to go, but they are just soul-less mobile billboards to me. Even F1 is very samey, all the engines are the same, loads of running gear is shared and the cars outwardly are very similar, apart from minor aero details you need a telescope to see. I like the SuperGT GT500 cars of a couple of years ago, they remind me of 70's/80's Group 5 cars, but they have gone the identical engine, DTM silhouette route, the Lexus SC SGT is as ugly as sin. I haven't watched much of the Daytona 'P's', but from what I have seen they look a bit slow, in that they don't seem to move around much, and you'd be hard pressed to tell there are 3 or 4 makes involved as they all look exactly the same, bar the paint jobs.
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Old 22 May 2013, 14:51 (Ref:3251704)   #158
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Who says "everyone dislikes" the 97-98 era? Lots of Riley & Scott's, Ferrari 333SPs, Panoz GT1s, etc. I remember it as a pretty fun time for US racing fans. I guess the perception was that the racing wasn't very good because it was the last years of the IMSA series and it was replaced by GrandAm and ALMS and supposedly split the fan base.

DK
Actually ALMS took the whole fan base.



My favorite classes of sportscars

P1
GTE
P2 (2007-2010 cars would be 2nd favorite)
GT3
LMPC
GTC

Everything else, I don't want to be a part of.

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Old 22 May 2013, 16:34 (Ref:3251736)   #159
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Old 22 May 2013, 17:03 (Ref:3251752)   #160
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"Who the **** is Andy Evans?" I would suspect.
Yeah, that about sums up the question!
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Old 22 May 2013, 18:36 (Ref:3251787)   #161
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1. P1 Real racing prototypes---what it's all about
2. GTE/GTLM Real racing GTs (most of 'em) But BoP is always a problem here and always will be now that cars are purely commercial products and racing is an afterthought
3. FIA GT3 Real Racing GTs but as with GTE, BoP is always an issue
4. P2 Lower-cost modern prototypes--the entry-level, pro-Am class
5. PC Even lower cost modern prototypes--shouldn't be in a top-tier series but the top of the support series
6. GTC/GTD Should be the support series GT class
7. DP Should be historic racers
I'd second that.
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Old 22 May 2013, 20:57 (Ref:3251865)   #162
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I find it strange that so many people choose P1 as their first option. I know it's the top level of endurance racing, but right now with only two real contenders and one of them running an "underfunded" (compared to Audi, according to what is said on the Toyota thread) program, I feel like more is needed in that particular class to be called "la crème de la crème".

Looking just from an entertainment point of view, would you still make it your first choice ? That's the only factor I took into account to make my list.
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Old 22 May 2013, 21:05 (Ref:3251871)   #163
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Old 22 May 2013, 21:29 (Ref:3251880)   #164
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#1 - GTE-Pro/ALMS GT all the way.
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GTE is my favorite class, however after attending my first race last year, the moments that most impressed me was the Dyson Racing #16 Lola Mazda screaming down the long front straight at Road America and the #6 Muscle Milk HPD flying around turn 5, with the traction control audibly working.
THAT was really cool!
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#1 - GTE-Pro/ALMS GT all the way.
+1, with P1 in second.
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GTE is my favorite class, however after attending my first race last year, the moments that most impressed me was the Dyson Racing #16 Lola Mazda screaming down the long front straight at Road America and the #6 Muscle Milk HPD flying around turn 5, with the traction control audibly working.
THAT was really cool!
Turn 5 at Road America is truly special, and the speed on the front straight can be amazing. those are 2 big reasons why Road America is my favorite track!
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Turn 5 at Road America is truly special, and the speed on the front straight can be amazing. those are 2 big reasons why Road America is my favorite track!
Canada Corner is awesome, too. Love the smell of the fuel on the front straight. Gorgeous track.
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Turn 5 at Road America is truly special, and the speed on the front straight can be amazing. those are 2 big reasons why Road America is my favorite track!
then be prepared for rebellion and muscle milk in a few months one after the other down the straight was awesome.
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then be prepared for rebellion and muscle milk in a few months one after the other down the straight was awesome.
They were great at Sebring but seeing them battle at Laguna Seca was breath taking! Only need 2 cars for a race...
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They were great at Sebring but seeing them battle at Laguna Seca was breath taking! Only need 2 cars for a race...
They are so equally matched, I wouldn't be surprised if every race in P1 is that impressive!
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Canada Corner is awesome, too. Love the smell of the fuel on the front straight. Gorgeous track.
Thats my favorite part of the track. Coming out from that top speed to make that turn.
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You could really get a sense of the speed the cars are carrying from the broadcast last year.
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Anybody who ranks P2 ahead of GT3 cars is either crazy or just have not watched enough GT3 racing.

Why is P2 attractive? Those cars are so blah..except for the Lotus T128. Oreca, Alpine, Zytek, Morgan, HPD..they all look the same to me.
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Anybody who ranks P2 ahead of GT3 cars is either crazy or just have not watched enough GT3 racing.

Why is P2 attractive? Those cars are so blah..except for the Lotus T128. Oreca, Alpine, Zytek, Morgan, HPD..they all look the same to me.
Have you seen 2007-2008 ALMS?
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