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Old 25 Jan 2002, 14:24 (Ref:204210)   #1
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BTCC's Biggest Crashes

as a young touring car fan, i hav'nt seen too many crashes but the ones i have seen are:-
Sopers Crash (2001)
James Thompson - Brands GP (2000)
Jason Plato - Croft (2000)
Dan Eaves - Snetterton (2001)
Colin Blair - Knockhill (2001)
Cleland- Soper - Harvey (????)
er?....
um.....


And thats about it for me so if you have seen any big crashes like the ones above then drop a reply.

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Old 25 Jan 2002, 14:34 (Ref:204218)   #2
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You could always go to the video shpo to buy a copy of "..And they walked away 3" (or whatever) to satisfy your lust for destruction
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Old 25 Jan 2002, 14:44 (Ref:204223)   #3
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What's that i hear??

Oh it's the sound of a barrel being scraped!
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Old 25 Jan 2002, 18:11 (Ref:204331)   #4
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Kelvin Burt's crash in 1996 was tremendous.
The start at Snettetton in 1993 was a big one too.
I can't think well right now, so more to come.
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Old 25 Jan 2002, 21:42 (Ref:204451)   #5
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Charlie Cox - Thruxton, 1995.

Kelvin Burt's crash at Oulton Park was a very, very nasty one. Also remember Alain Menu almost ending up in the lake at Oulton Park one year, he was definitely down by the reeds by the time the car stopped (backwards) - they've since put barriers down that whole stretch of the circuit, so it's unlikely anything as dramatic as Kelvin's or Alain's moments will ever be repeated.
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Old 25 Jan 2002, 22:07 (Ref:204459)   #6
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Kelvin's crash at Oulton has to be the worst I've ever witnessed, I was stood at Knickerbrook. Certainly not the sort of thing I want to see when I go watching racing. A friend of mine was marshalling that day and said that Kelvin was actually trapped underneath the steering wheel. I think he was very lucky that day, it could have been a lot worse. I'm actually quite surprised that it took Menu's excursion towards the lake for the armco to be extended, I'd expected changes after Burt's crash because didn't he hit the very end of the armco and so that seemed to add to the force of the whole crash.
As for Menu, that was actually quite a graceful looking slide towards the lake

I'm sure this topic has been done before and it's one I always approach with a fair bit of trepidation because sadly you always will get some people who just want to go to a motorsport event to see a big crash. At Thruxton BTCC I stood behind a group of lads who were discussing what a boring day it was because they hadn't seen any serious crashes or anyone getting killed, you can't even refer to people like that as motorsport fans, just mindless idiots
The same goes for the videos that Chris mentioned, I simply don't understand the mindset of a person who wants to watch a video of nothing but big crashes.
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Old 25 Jan 2002, 22:10 (Ref:204460)   #7
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Blimey Shoey, go careful with all this posting - do you realise you've actually lost your Rookie status
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Old 25 Jan 2002, 22:23 (Ref:204469)   #8
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Blimey, you're right! I logged on here for the first time in absolutely ages and thought "'18 posts' - I must have posted more than that over the years". But seemingly NO!
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Old 25 Jan 2002, 22:24 (Ref:204471)   #9
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Toyota always done well in the shunt department. 1995 tim sugden rolling the car at brands hatch. Also andy rouse and will hoy and will hoy and julian bailey always done well.

Also rydell at brands in 1995
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Old 26 Jan 2002, 03:45 (Ref:204570)   #10
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I'm sure this topic has been done before and it's one I always approach with a fair bit of trepidation because sadly you always will get some people who just want to go to a motorsport event to see a big crash. At Thruxton BTCC I stood behind a group of lads who were discussing what a boring day it was because they hadn't seen any serious crashes or anyone getting killed, you can't even refer to people like that as motorsport fans, just mindless idiots
Right, I agree. I went to a CART race a few years back and when somebody would crash, a big cheer went up from the crowd. Sick people...
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Old 26 Jan 2002, 12:02 (Ref:204668)   #11
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Couldnt agree more. Big crashes are inevitable in motorsport and may look spectacular but they are no substitute for close, safe racing. People who go to motorsport events hoping to see a big crash really have no idea.
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Old 26 Jan 2002, 13:48 (Ref:204706)   #12
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Couldnt agree more. Big crashes are inevitable in motorsport and may look spectacular but they are no substitute for close, safe racing. People who go to motorsport events hoping to see a big crash really have no idea.
Well said. In Touring Cars where in some cases contact is inevitable, that's entertaining and can result in fantastic racing. Seeing contact in Nascar or Formula 1 is plain scary.
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Old 26 Jan 2002, 19:20 (Ref:204836)   #13
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Although I don't like to see too many accidents, both Charlie Cox's shunt at Thruxton and the Radisich/Watts startline shunt at Brands in '95 were probably the most spectacular.

As well as being dangerous, shunts cost a huge amount to repair! When teams (especially at lower levels) can't afford to repair thier cars, they leave the series and grid numbers suffer!
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Old 26 Jan 2002, 23:51 (Ref:204985)   #14
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Hoy and Bailey at GP support was the funniest, because taking out a team-mate is stupid.
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Old 27 Jan 2002, 10:22 (Ref:205122)   #15
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i think platos crash at thuxton in 2000 was nasty,when i frist saw it on tv it shook me up!
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Old 27 Jan 2002, 10:31 (Ref:205126)   #16
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I think it's better to talk about the less serious crashes people.

My first race I attended at Knockhill in 1999, where half the field ended up going all ways down Duffus and up to the chicane!!!
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Old 27 Jan 2002, 10:42 (Ref:205133)   #17
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the funnist crashwas muller hitting thompson at snetterton in 99.
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Old 27 Jan 2002, 16:02 (Ref:205334)   #18
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Those crash videos you can get, ie - Havoc, Car Wars, are all fine because they assure you that no one was seriously injured in any of the crashes. Buying a video to see the crashes on it is no problem to me.

I will admit that i am interested when there is a big accident in F1, Touring Cars or whatever. At first i am like - wow that was a big one. I always expect the driver to get out, and usually they do - ie Burti's somersault in F1 in Germany this year. If i realise that a driver hasnt emerged from the wreckage then I am not happy and I am worried. Luckily i havent experienced an actual death live on TV since 1994.

So i am easily able to comment on what I think were the 'best' crashes in the BTCC:

The best one i saw live was Gavin Pyper's barrel-roll down cascades in 2000. One's i have seen on TV include Tarquini in 94 at Knockhill, Burt in 96 at Oulton and Tarquini/Plato in 2000 at Croft.
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Old 27 Jan 2002, 16:33 (Ref:205355)   #19
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I think Matt Neals in a Mazda in 94, was one of the worst ever, I remeber seeing Manuel Reuter have a big one infront of me at a DTM race one year and that was quite horrific, fortunately both of these drives escaped pretty much unheart and have done some brilliant racing since.
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Old 27 Jan 2002, 17:16 (Ref:205387)   #20
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The crash Matt Neal suffered in '94 injured him badly didn't it? He didn't appear again that season.

Plato/Tarquini at croft 2000
Thompson at Brands 2000
Eugene O' brien Thruxton 1994
Coxy at Thruxton 1995

They are probably the worst ever crashes.
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Old 27 Jan 2002, 19:02 (Ref:205432)   #21
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The crash Matt Neal suffered in '94 injured him badly didn't it? He didn't appear again that season.

Plato/Tarquini at croft 2000
Thompson at Brands 2000
Eugene O' brien Thruxton 1994
Coxy at Thruxton 1995

They are probably the worst ever crashes.
What about Rustad's 2 shunts at Thruxton in 1998?
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Old 27 Jan 2002, 20:28 (Ref:205457)   #22
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The second shunt that Tommy had looked like a big one, by looking at the car damaged, but we didn't actually see it happen on our TV screens as the race was broadcast live.

His shunt in round 2 was a harmless spin into the wall.
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Old 27 Jan 2002, 20:53 (Ref:205478)   #23
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Accidents in practice.

The Arena run Laguna of Mr Spence.
His off at Oulton was the worst i have witnessed in practice for a time,
The one to tickle me,Mr Muller ,warm up Brands 99, a harmless roll.
One to add to the bacon he had earlier.
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Old 27 Jan 2002, 21:30 (Ref:205494)   #24
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I think Muller's little roll at Brands could probably go down as one of the most embarassing for a driver Or at least he could compete with the Toyota boys in '93 - a lesson in how not to make yourself popular with the team
As for Spence, I was at Oulton that day and I've still not worked out quite how he managed to park that car the way he did. One of the most worrying aspects of that was not just the fact that he put the car in a spectator area, he put it in the disabled viewing area. I certainly think the consequences would have been a lot worse had that happened on race day.
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Old 27 Jan 2002, 23:12 (Ref:205554)   #25
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1.tarquini 1994 knockhill 2.1993 steve soper oulton park 3.1996 kelvin burt oulton park 4.1995 charlie cox thruxton 5. 1994 john cleland oulton park 6.1994 matt Neal silverstone
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