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Old 27 May 2018, 08:18 (Ref:3824872)   #121
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Problem partly solved. They will get one less manufacturer from October.
And yet another may leave at the end of the year as well.
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Old 1 Jun 2018, 12:57 (Ref:3826015)   #122
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https://www.motorsport.com/dtm/news/...races-1042586/

It seems that Super GT and DTM will race together next year. One race in Japan and one in Europe. Sadly, it doesn't change anything in regard of DTM's future. I doubt that Japanese manufacturers are willing to participate in DTM because if they have almost the same cars over there, what point is in racing in Europe? It would take much more money if, say, Honda would like to race in DTM and field 6-8 cars as a factory outfit.
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Old 1 Jun 2018, 13:07 (Ref:3826018)   #123
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It seems that Super GT and DTM will race together next year.

How many times have we read that?
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Old 1 Jun 2018, 14:09 (Ref:3826029)   #124
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How many times have we read that?
Numerous times probably. It looks like it's now sorted out yet still it doesn't play any role in securing DTM's future.
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Old 1 Jun 2018, 14:20 (Ref:3826034)   #125
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Numerous times probably. It looks like it's now sorted out yet still it doesn't play any role in securing DTM's future.
Well, I'd suggest it does... this is a step closer to a universal class one format. We just have to see what the next step is
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Old 1 Jun 2018, 15:52 (Ref:3826047)   #126
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I'd be cautious with a 'universal Class One format'. According to the article, Japanese still want to alter the regulations a bit so that it would suit Super GT more. They don't want exactly the same regulations, they'd like to have some freedom, especially in regard of aerodynamics. It doesn't bode well and I don't think any of the three Super GT manufacturers have any interest in fielding their teams in DTM. So, all in all, the exhibition races of both series have practically nothing to do with DTM's prospect for future. Even with almost-unified Class One regulations, the DTM is rather unlikely to get any new manufacturer. Class One does not seem to be affordable for private teams either.
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Old 3 Jun 2018, 17:03 (Ref:3826565)   #127
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Have you heard what happen today?
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Old 3 Jun 2018, 17:52 (Ref:3826573)   #128
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Yeah, awful. Maybe itís time to look at using something else for pit aprons or applying some kind of traction compound. Hopefully something will be done because itís not the first time this has happened at the Hungaroring.
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Old 3 Jun 2018, 18:12 (Ref:3826578)   #129
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Jerome d'Ambrosio spun in the pit lane in 2011. So it was somewhat known that the pit lane was slippery and yet the FIA couldn't be bothered to do something about it? Maybe they'll do now, as the pictures of out of control touring cars hitting mechanics and marshals will probably go around the world. Obviously I hope the injured people get well soon. But the DTM may face a PR nightmare in a time, where it desperately needs good, positive news. It's not necessarily their fault, but they will be connected to it nonetheless. Being connected to pictures of racing cars injuring people will hardly increase manufacturer or sponsor interest.
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Old 3 Jun 2018, 19:02 (Ref:3826582)   #130
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Auer, Mortara and Spengler have been disqualified from race 2 because of the incidents.
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Old 4 Jun 2018, 09:50 (Ref:3826701)   #131
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Auer, Mortara and Spengler have been disqualified from race 2 because of the incidents.
Not sure I agree with that, they were clearly taking it easy in the pitlane but were caught off guard by the lack of grip. I think this was a genuine accident for all involved. Really nasty to see anyone injured, but I dont imagined any of them would blame the drivers, the conditions were just very extreme.
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Old 4 Jun 2018, 11:29 (Ref:3826712)   #132
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Yes, I don't think that exclusions are rightful in this situation. However harmful the incidents were, this is not the reason to penalise drivers as they didn't make any mistake that resulted in the crashes. I think it's rather a PR-driven decision.
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Old 4 Jun 2018, 12:27 (Ref:3826726)   #133
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With all due respect, but the fact that those 3 had incidents while several others hadn't does mean they took too much risk right? Now if every driver in the pit lane had played bowling with his pitcrew it'd be a different story, but that wasn't the case.

I do think exclusion is a bit heavy though. I also think Hungaroring should be forced by the FIA to change their pitlane, because an environment where a lot of people are shouldn't be that slippery when it gets wet.
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With all due respect, but the fact that those 3 had incidents while several others hadn't does mean they took too much risk right? Now if every driver in the pit lane had played bowling with his pitcrew it'd be a different story, but that wasn't the case. I do think exclusion is a bit heavy though.
I think Auer as first man into the pits was caught out by the lack of grip - the other 2 were warned over the radio what had happened and there were yellows waving in the pit lane when they came in so have no excuse. I'd have excluded Spengler and Mortara but not Auer.

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I also think Hungaroring should be forced by the FIA to change their pitlane, because an environment where a lot of people are shouldn't be that slippery when it gets wet.
Is the issue seen anywhere else? I know other circuits have concrete pit aprons but I don't recall hearing incidents like this before.
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Old 4 Jun 2018, 13:40 (Ref:3826738)   #135
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I was there, directly on the opposite side in the grandstands...
the 1st one was an accident....the 2nd and 3rd happened minutes later...it was hazardous driving to get an advantage from the accident happened.
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