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Old 12 Jul 2011, 00:59 (Ref:2925356)   #181
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I was just thinking about this car and I was wondering one thing, money. The theory of the car is to be half weight, take half the power, and have half the drag. So with all those halves, does the price (compared to a current LMP1 car) drop in half as well?
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Old 12 Jul 2011, 01:17 (Ref:2925361)   #182
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I was just thinking about this car and I was wondering one thing, money. The theory of the car is to be half weight, take half the power, and have half the drag. So with all those halves, does the price (compared to a current LMP1 car) drop in half as well?
Panoz is involved to make profits....
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Old 12 Jul 2011, 13:35 (Ref:2925571)   #183
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Panoz is involved to make profits....
That's what I figured. If Panoz is in charge of manufacturing and distribution, then I'm sure they will make only certain parts eligible as in LMPC and control who sells said parts.
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Old 17 Jul 2011, 23:36 (Ref:2927880)   #184
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Dagys just send out a Tweet saying that there are high hopes that the Delta Wing will be homologated as an LMP1 in the future (2014?). Dagys will have more on the topic tomorrow.

Maybe then the Delta Wing won't be a spec class? But if it is homologated as a LMP1, I hope other light weight cars are homologated as well and not just the Delta Wing or else it will become a spec sub-class within a class. That would be pathetic. Anyway, criticize me if you want, but I hope the thing massively fails next year. The thing is hideous looking and I don't like the potential of it becoming some sort of spec car at Le Mans.
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Old 18 Jul 2011, 01:13 (Ref:2927897)   #185
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I have toagree lmp 900 and 675 were supposed to be on equal footing essentially and it didn't really work- then lmp1 and 2 and lmp c. This would be more of the same
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Old 18 Jul 2011, 02:36 (Ref:2927903)   #186
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Dagys just send out a Tweet saying that there are high hopes that the Delta Wing will be homologated as an LMP1 in the future (2014?). Dagys will have more on the topic tomorrow.

Maybe then the Delta Wing won't be a spec class? But if it is homologated as a LMP1, I hope other light weight cars are homologated as well and not just the Delta Wing or else it will become a spec sub-class within a class. That would be pathetic. Anyway, criticize me if you want, but I hope the thing massively fails next year. The thing is hideous looking and I don't like the potential of it becoming some sort of spec car at Le Mans.
I hope it fails, but I hope it doesnt take the lives of drivers and spectators to prove the car is a failure. If I were a Black Ops spectator on the Mulsanne next year Id be very, very careful.

Best thing would be for the car to fail to start the race at all, and considering Panoz is involved, I would not be at all be suprised if that happens to be the case.
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Old 18 Jul 2011, 03:05 (Ref:2927910)   #187
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I hope it fails, but I hope it doesnt take the lives of drivers and spectators to prove the car is a failure. If I were a Black Ops spectator on the Mulsanne next year Id be very, very careful.

Best thing would be for the car to fail to start the race at all, and considering Panoz is involved, I would not be at all be suprised if that happens to be the case.
Panoz is only involved in the construction aren't they? Highcroft will be running it. I don't think the DW can be any more of a spectacular failure than the AMR1 is. With Highcroft, they at least will have a solid team to sort out the car before LM. Now, if what I recall from MM, Panoz has laid off all of their car building crew. I would suspect they may have more trouble meeting construction deadlines rather than seeing the car fail miserably on the track.
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Old 18 Jul 2011, 03:24 (Ref:2927913)   #188
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Panoz is only involved in the construction aren't they? Highcroft will be running it. I don't think the DW can be any more of a spectacular failure than the AMR1 is. With Highcroft, they at least will have a solid team to sort out the car before LM. Now, if what I recall from MM, Panoz has laid off all of their car building crew. I would suspect they may have more trouble meeting construction deadlines rather than seeing the car fail miserably on the track.
You bring up a good point about Panoz and possible construction deadlines, it will be interesting to see when this thing (not a car) actually races, Im suspecting either Sebring or another early ALMS race.
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Old 18 Jul 2011, 03:39 (Ref:2927917)   #189
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I thought Dan Gurney/AAR was building the car and Panoz is supplying some of the materials.
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Old 18 Jul 2011, 11:50 (Ref:2928064)   #190
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I thought Dan Gurney/AAR was building the car and Panoz is supplying some of the materials.
yeah, that would have been a clearer way to explain it. Involved in the parts supply. thanks
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I thought Dan Gurney/AAR was building the car and Panoz is supplying some of the materials.
Gurney/AAR is building the first car for Highcroft. Any cars that make it into production, they will be built by Panoz with parts distributed through Newman-Haas.

One question in the packaging, does this thing have transverse engine? There looks to be no room at the back of this thing where the driver roll hoop ends and the back of the car, like a proper mid-engine sports car. I also have to think that this thing is going to flex like a top fuel dragster? Duncan says it will be testing in December, so we will see soon enough.
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Old 18 Jul 2011, 20:08 (Ref:2928241)   #192
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It's more substantional than a typial single-seater tub.
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Gurney/AAR is building the first car for Highcroft. Any cars that make it into production, they will be built by Panoz with parts distributed through Newman-Haas.
Yeah? That's interesting. That does not make a lot of sense for AAR as it seems that it would be pretty expense to tool to build one car. It almost seems like Gurney is just a token to get the project more attention if that is the case. On the other hand, I could understand why Panoz would want to cover his rear in case nobody wants to buy this thing (which is hopefully what will happen).

EDIT: Does Carl Haas have distribution rights to Panoz cars? I think he has North American distribution rights to Orecas or at least the FLMs.

EDIT2: I just read Dagys' article from today and it looks like AAR is building at least two of these things.

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EDIT: Does Carl Haas have distribution rights to Panoz cars? I think he has North American distribution rights to Orecas or at least the FLMs.
Yes. Since the days of the DP-01 ChampCar.
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It almost seems like Gurney is just a token to get the project more attention if that is the case..
That is what I have felt since it was announced.
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