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Old 22 Mar 2004, 18:51 (Ref:915499)   #1
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Ralf's foresight

Maybe it should be front sight
I think Ralfie's contacts need adjusting. I think his belief that he had the line in that corner when he put his front wing into Webber's right rear is a bit skewed as well.

Ralf has too often hit someone in simular situations. He always seems to blame the other guy. I know when I used to race gokarts, we bumped wheels occasionally in the corners, but the guy first into the turn was always in the right.
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Old 22 Mar 2004, 19:20 (Ref:915530)   #2
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Oh look! it's another bash Ralf thread! As there has already been a thread about Ralfs overtaking tittled 'Ralf, how much room do you want' i cannot believe this is going to generate a real discussion. shouldn't think it will be closed like the 'miserable montoya' thread either.
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Old 22 Mar 2004, 19:26 (Ref:915535)   #3
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Re: Ralf's foresight

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Maybe it should be front sight
I think Ralfie's contacts need adjusting. I think his belief that he had the line in that corner when he put his front wing into Webber's right rear is a bit skewed as well.

Ralf has too often hit someone in simular situations. He always seems to blame the other guy. I know when I used to race gokarts, we bumped wheels occasionally in the corners, but the guy first into the turn was always in the right.
I tend to agree with the race organisers that it was more of a "racing incident". Ralf made the move, saw that Mark was closing the door, attempted to back out but could not get out of the way fast enough.

I do feel a bit bad for Mark though, mind you if he did not make such a dogs breakfast of the start he would not have been in that position......

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Old 22 Mar 2004, 19:27 (Ref:915537)   #4
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hmmmm

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'Ralf, how much room do you want' .
I will have to go take a look at this one!
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Old 22 Mar 2004, 19:35 (Ref:915548)   #5
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Wow - between Ralf bashing, Jacques bashing, and now, Fisi bashing, what else would we have to talk about?

Oh, I forgot about Button praising...

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Old 22 Mar 2004, 19:39 (Ref:915554)   #6
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Wow - between Ralf bashing, Jacques bashing, and now, Fisi bashing, what else would we have to talk about?

Oh, I forgot about Button praising...
I think we all need to have a group hug.

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Old 22 Mar 2004, 19:49 (Ref:915571)   #7
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Message to Ralf: Race a bit harder, whinge a bit less.

Not a bash, simply what us Williams fans want to see. If he had any sense at all he'd know very well that the Jaguar could never have maintained points scoring pace, and even it it did there would have been ample opportunity to overtake within a few laps. Sepang is one of the very easiest tracks to race and overtake on.
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Old 22 Mar 2004, 19:54 (Ref:915581)   #8
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I don't disagree with it being a racing incident. What I do disagree with is Ralf 'blaming' Webber.

That he can't admit the incident falling more on his side of the fence is what bothers me.
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Old 22 Mar 2004, 21:53 (Ref:915738)   #9
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The only problem with the whole incident was Ralf tried to make a pass when there wasn't room.Ralf had the red mist up because Webber had not only passed him but forced him wide.I'm not saying Ralf did this on purpose as I don't think he would but you have to admit it was a messy attempt at a pass from a long way back.
As for bashing Ralf I'm not into that but just appoint the blame to the correct person.
Although given the speculation as to whos going to be sitting in that Williams next year cannot be helping.

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Old 22 Mar 2004, 22:09 (Ref:915763)   #10
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Ralf's comments after the incident with Webber on Sunday were very much the sign of a driver under pressure to get a competitive drive for next year.
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Old 23 Mar 2004, 01:15 (Ref:915918)   #11
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I think we all need to have a group hug.

Funniest post I have seen in years.

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Old 23 Mar 2004, 02:33 (Ref:915959)   #12
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I agree with 006_007 racing incident, end of story.
I could use a hug right now.
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Old 23 Mar 2004, 03:07 (Ref:915983)   #13
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Pressure? Schumi Lite? Nahhh!

Schumi Lite has invariably blamed someone else for his incidents.

f1atic, I see no reason why one thread couldn't discuss the how's and whys of a racing incident and another can discuss the driver's reactions to it.

If the mods see fit they will combine them, but in the meantime enjoy!
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