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Old 24 Feb 2010, 11:36 (Ref:2641379)   #1
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I found this photo in my archive,of John Morris in his Mk1 Golf at Donington, with Tony Dickinson's? RS2000 also in the shot.
I do not recognize the Mazda,anyone ?
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Old 24 Feb 2010, 11:43 (Ref:2641380)   #2
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To continue the JM link I found this photo in my archive,of John Morris in his Mk1 Golf at Donington, with Tony Dickinson's? RS2000 also in the shot.
I do not recognize the Mazda,anyone ?
Nice shot of the Group 1 cars (more welcome!). The Mazda is one of the TWR cars, likely pedalled either by Chuck Nicholson or David Palmer.

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1982 Tricentrol RAC British Saloon Car Championship - Discussion & Results

Richard Longman vs Steve Soper Metros + Rover snout, looks like the Patrick Motors car,driven by ?
Soper again with a Corolla in the background ?
John Morris + dickinson + Dolomite ?

Get your thinking caps on folks !

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Chunterer,your wish is my command,more of the same.

Richard Longman vs Steve Soper Metros + Rover snout, looks like the Patrick Motors car,driven by ?
Soper again with a Corolla in the background ?
John Morris + dickinson + Dolomite ?

Get your thinking caps on folks !

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Patrick Motors Rovers? IIRC Brian Muir and Rad Dougall come to mind?
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Patrick Motors Rovers? IIRC Brian Muir and Rad Dougall come to mind?
Yes, looks like it's 1982 in these shots?

The Datapost and Hepolite Metro's suggest so, as do the Dickenson RS2000 and what looks like Hamish Irvine's Dolly Sprint? (Makes me wonder whose RX7 that was a few posts back?!!)

I'm thinking it could be time for a 1982 Tricentrol Grp 1 thread along the lines of the ones from '83 onwards so we can keep this one specific to JMR cars?

Would anyone object if I moved these across to start such a thread (WOCCOWAYCER, you could then continue to post similar piccies in that?)
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Yes, looks like it's 1982 in these shots?

The Datapost and Hepolite Metro's suggest so, as do the Dickenson RS2000 and what looks like Hamish Irvine's Dolly Sprint? (Makes me wonder whose RX7 that was a few posts back?!!)

I'm thinking it could be time for a 1982 Tricentrol Grp 1 thread along the lines of the ones from '83 onwards so we can keep this one specific to JMR cars?

Would anyone object if I moved these across to start such a thread (WOCCOWAYCER, you could then continue to post similar piccies in that?)
Works for me! It's a couple of years before I started to really watch racing, so don't have any pics- might be able to muster the odd race result and report though...
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Yes, looks like it's 1982 in these shots?

The Datapost and Hepolite Metro's suggest so, as do the Dickenson RS2000 and what looks like Hamish Irvine's Dolly Sprint? (Makes me wonder whose RX7 that was a few posts back?!!)

I'm thinking it could be time for a 1982 Tricentrol Grp 1 thread along the lines of the ones from '83 onwards so we can keep this one specific to JMR cars?

Would anyone object if I moved these across to start such a thread (WOCCOWAYCER, you could then continue to post similar piccies in that?)
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A few more piccies from the same meeting,

Dennis Leech Rover SD1,with holed headlight.

Vince Woodman Capri, I'm not sure about the Sanyo Rover,my first guess would be Jeff Allam ? looks like his helmet.

The red Capri would most likely be Gordon Spice ? is it #8 ?

The last picture,of the Spice Capri was taken at a small racing car show at Central Milton Keynes at the end of 1982.
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The red Capri would most likely be Gordon Spice ? is it #8 ?

The last picture,of the Spice Capri was taken at a small racing car show at Central Milton Keynes at the end of 1982.
Good shots again there! Woodman really looks hard on the gas coming out of the chicane!

That's the oft discussed car that Brian Chatfield bought, and interestingly, the last pic you've posted of no 8 is highly likely the other one he bought at the end of 1982/early 1983.

Keep the pics coming chap, most valuable. We can start to get down to talking about the season shortly I guess folks?

Mallory Park was the season opener IIRC?

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Chunterer,your wish is my command,more of the same.

Richard Longman vs Steve Soper Metros + Rover snout, looks like the Patrick Motors car,driven by ?
Soper again with a Corolla in the background ?
John Morris + dickinson + Dolomite ?

Get your thinking caps on folks !

Enjoy.
Seeing the Hepolite and datapost Metro's reminds me of the time they entered a combined team at the Donington 500 and were (unofficially) known as Team Hepopost...

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Good shots again there! Woodman really looks hard on the gas coming out of the chicane!

That's the oft discussed car that Brian Chatfield bought, and interestingly, the last pic you've posted of no 8 is highly likely the other one he bought at the end of 1982/early 1983.

Keep the pics coming chap, most valuable. We can start to get down to talking about the season shortly I guess folks?

Mallory Park was the season opener IIRC?
I've got one or two results from 1982- I'll sort them out. Anyone know the calendar? I don't have the dates, but think this might be partly right...

Round 1- Mallory?
Round 2-???
Round 3-Oulton
Rounds 4-7- ???
Round 8- Brands
Round 9- Donington
Round 10- Silverstone
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A few more piccies from the same meeting,

Dennis Leech Rover SD1,with holed headlight.

Vince Woodman Capri, I'm not sure about the Sanyo Rover,my first guess would be Jeff Allam ? looks like his helmet.

The red Capri would most likely be Gordon Spice ? is it #8 ?

The last picture,of the Spice Capri was taken at a small racing car show at Central Milton Keynes at the end of 1982.
The presence of Dennis Leech indicate this was round 7 held on 4 July 1982. I have a complete year of 1982 Autosport providing full qualifying times for all rounds (I think), top-10 overall results and top-3 in the classes. I'll have a look in the relevant issues and post some results.
Oh, the red Corolla must be none other than the recently surfaced Chris Hodgetts!

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I have most of the results, but no car numbers or team/entrant names in my file. Help will be much appreciated before I post any results.

Class A (2500-3600 cc)
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 Andy Rouse Ford Capri 3.0S
 Charles Sawyer-Hoare Ford Capri 3.0S
 Gordon Spice Ford Capri 3.0S
 Graham Goode Ford Capri 3.0S
 Jonathan Buncombe Ford Capri 3.0S
 Vince Woodman Ford Capri 3.0S
 Brian Muir (AUS) Rover 3500 V8
 Dennis Leech Rover 3500 V8
 Frank Sytner Rover 3500 V8
 Jeff Allam Rover 3500 V8
 Peter Lovett Rover 3500 V8
 Rad Dougall Rover 3500 V8
 Tom Walkinshaw Rover 3500 V8

Class B (1601-2500 cc)
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 Jon Dooley Alfa Romeo GTV6 2.5
 Erik Høyer (DK) Ford Escort RS2000
 Mike Buckley Ford Escort RS2000
 Tony Dickinson Ford Escort RS2000
 David Palmer Mazda RX-7
 Gordon Bruce Mazda RX-7
 Mike Kimpton Mazda RX-7
 Terry Nightingale Mazda RX-7
 James Burrows Toyota Celica
 Arne Riis (DK) Triumph Dolomite Sprint
 Hamish Irvine Triumph Dolomite Sprint

Class C (1301-1600 cc)
#DriverTeamCar
 Andrew Thorpe Alfa Romeo Alfasud Sprint
 Robin Brundle Audi 80 GLE
 Jock Robertson Ford Fiesta XR2
 John Spiller Talbot Sunbeam ti
 Terry Watts Talbot Sunbeam ti
 Tony Dickinson Talbot Sunbeam ti
 Pete Hall Toyota Celica
 Robin Brundle Toyota Celica
 Chris Hodgetts Toyota Corolla
 John Tait Toyota Corolla
 Tony Crudgington Toyota Corolla
 Win Percy Toyota Corolla
 Alan Greenhalgh VW Golf GTI
 John Morris VW Golf GTI
 Tony Lanfranchi VW Scirocco GTI

Class D (Under 1300 cc)
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 Jon Dooley Alfa Romeo Alfasud 1.3
 Rob Kirby Alfa Romeo Alfasud 1.3
 Alan Curnow Austin Metro
 Neil McGrath Austin Metro
 Richard Hurdwell Austin Metro
 Richard Longman Austin Metro
 Roger Saunders Austin Metro
 Steve Soper Austin Metro
 Stewart Fowler Ford Fiesta
 David da Costa Vauxhall Astra

A lot of familiar names for future British Saloon/Touring car years to come.

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I've got one or two results from 1982- I'll sort them out. Anyone know the calendar? I don't have the dates, but think this might be partly right...

Round 1- Mallory?
Round 2-???
Round 3-Oulton
Rounds 4-7- ???
Round 8- Brands
Round 9- Donington
Round 10- Silverstone
Mallory was early March I think?

Thruxton would've followed Oulton over the Easter weekend I reckon?

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I have most of the results, but no car numbers or team/entrant names in my file. Help will be much appreciated before I post any results.

Class A (2500-3600 cc)
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 9 Andy Rouse Gordon Spice Racing/Shell
 Charles Sawyer-Hoare Ebel Watches
 8 Gordon Spice Gordon Spice Racing/Shell
 Graham Goode Goode
 4 Jonathan Buncombe Equipe Esso
 3 Vince Woodman Equipe Esso
 Brian Muir (AUS) Patrick Motorsport/Duckhams
 Dennis Leech Leech
 Frank Sytner ARG/Sanyo/Esso
 Jeff Allam ARG/Sanyo/Esso
 Peter Lovett ARG/Sanyo/Esso
 Rad Dougal Patrick Motorsport/Duckhams
 Tom Walkinshaw ARG/Sanyo/Esso

A lot of familiar names for future British Saloon/Touring car years to come.

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A small addition of numbers in class A.

Were the TWR Rovers no's 19 & 20. Not sure why I think that but..

Drat I've only gone and mucked up the table Jesper, it seems to have cut out the cars at the end when I edited in the entrants??!!

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Mallory was early March I think?

Thruxton would've followed Oulton over the Easter weekend I reckon?

I'll look out some results etc too...
R1 - 21 March, Silverstone
R2 - 28 March, Mallory Park, 1 x 2 races
R3 - 9 April, Oulton Park, 1 x 2 races
R4 - 12 April, Thruxton
R5 - 31 May, Thruxton
R6 - 13 June, Silverstone
R7 - 4 July, Donington Park
R8 - 18 July, Brands Hatch, British GP
R9 - 15 August, Donington Park
R10 - 30 August, Brands Hatch
R11 - 3 October, Silverstone

I believe 1982 to be the last time Mallory Park has been used for a round of the BSCC/BTCC. Why was Mallory dropped from future dates?

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Yes, that's true. I'm sure someone will tell us why the Hinckley track was dropped, I always thought it was because Mallory couldn't hold a full grid of cars, after all the last few years of Group 1 had seen split races for Classes A&B and then C&D?

Few more preambles about Class A.

Frank Sytner started the season with TWR but couldn't get the car going to his liking, so Peter Lovett returned to the team. TW practiced a 3rd Sanyo car at the Whitsun Thuxton round but didn't race. He was tyre testing as the season was troublesome for TWR even if they did win the class title, switiching from 3 different brands during the year!! They started on Avons which didn't work, tried Michelins and settled for Dunlops I believe?

All this of course played right into the hands of the Capris, particularly Vince Woodman who was unlucky not to win the class overall after a couple of late season Rover induced accidents lost him some vital points.

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Class A (2500-3600 cc)
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3Vince WoodmanEquipe Esso (CC Motorsport)Ford Capri 3.0S
4Jonathan BuncombeEquipe Esso (CC Motorsport)Ford Capri 3.0S
8Gordon SpiceGordon Spice RacingFord Capri 3.0S
9Andy RouseGordon Spice RacingFord Capri 3.0S
20Charles Sawyer-HoareEbel WatchesFord Capri 3.0S
 Graham GoodeGraham Goode RacingFord Capri 3.0S
 Brian Muir (AUS)Patrick Motorsport/DuckhamsRover 3500 V8
 Dennis LeechDennis LeechRover 3500 V8
 Frank SytnerTWR/ARG/Sanyo/EssoRover 3500 V8
 Jeff AllamTWR/ARG/Sanyo/EssoRover 3500 V8
 Peter LovettTWR/ARG/Sanyo/EssoRover 3500 V8
 Rad DougallPatrick Motorsport/DuckhamsRover 3500 V8
 Tom WalkinshawTWR/ARG/Sanyo/EssoRover 3500 V8

Class B (1601-2500 cc)
#DriverTeamCar
25Jon DooleyAlfa Romeo Dealer Team/NapolinaAlfa Romeo GTV6 2.5
27?Mike BuckleyMike BuckleyFord Escort RS2000
 Tony Dickinson Ford Escort RS2000
 David Palmer Mazda RX-7
 Gordon Bruce Mazda RX-7
 Mike Kimpton Mazda RX-7
 Terry Nightingale Mazda RX-7
 James Burrows Toyota Celica
 Arne Riis (DK) Triumph Dolomite Sprint
 Hamish Irvine Triumph Dolomite Sprint
|Erik Høyer (DK)||Ford Escort RS2000
Class C (1301-1600 cc)
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35John MorrisMorris VulcanVW Golf GTI
36?Tony LanfranchiVW MotorsportVW Scirocco GTI
39?Chris Hodgetts Toyota Corolla
40Win PercyHughes of Beaconsfield/Team Toyota GBToyota Corolla
44?Jock RobertsonPegasus MouldingsFord Fiesta XR2
52Andrew ThorpeAlfa Romeo Dealer Team/NapolinaAlfa Romeo Alfasud Sprint
67?Terry Watts Talbot Sunbeam ti
 Robin Brundle Audi 80 GLE
 John Spiller Talbot Sunbeam ti
 Tony Dickinson Talbot Sunbeam ti
 Pete Hall Toyota Celica
 Robin Brundle Toyota Celica
 John Tait Toyota Corolla
 Tony Crudgington Toyota Corolla
 Alan GreenhalghOrdibelVW Golf GTI

Class D (Under 1300 cc)
#DriverTeamCar
71Alan CurnowRoyal Mail DatapostAustin Metro
74Steve SoperHepolite GlacierAustin Metro
77Richard LongmanRoyal Mail DatapostAustin Metro
82Rob KirbyAlfa Romeo Dealer Team/NapolinaAlfa Romeo Alfasud 1.3
83Neil McGrathLinden Racing?Austin Metro
 Jon DooleyAlfa Romeo Dealer Team/NapolinaAlfa Romeo Alfasud 1.3
 Richard Hurdwell Austin Metro
 Roger Saunders Austin Metro
 Stewart Fowler Ford Fiesta
 David da Costa Vauxhall Astra

A lot of familiar names for future British Saloon/Touring car years to come.

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Added those I know, although I'm not 100% of some- I'm working from notes taken 25 years ago, and don't have the original Autosports etc
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Yes, that's true. I'm sure someone will tell us why the Hinckley track was dropped, I always thought it was because Mallory couldn't hold a full grid of cars, after all the last few years of Group 1 had seen split races for Classes A&B and then C&D?
I always thought that was the issue with Mallory as well, but won't swear to it- as you say, it had seen split races for the classes for several years.
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I have found a preview for the opening round as well as the '82 season as a whole in Autosport 18 March 1982.

Class A (2500-3600 cc)
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2Jeff AllamTeam Sanyo Racing with EssoRover 3500 V8
3Vince WoodmanEquipe EssoFord Capri 3.0S
4Jonathan BuncombeEquipe EssoFord Capri 3.0S
5Rad DougallPatrick MotorSportRover 3500 V8
8Gordon SpiceGordon Spice RacingFord Capri 3.0S
9Andy RouseGordon Spice RacingFord Capri 3.0S
12Dennis LeechDennis LeechRover 3500 V8
20Charles Sawyer-HoareCharles Sawyer-HoareFord Capri 3.0S
22Frank SytnerTeam Sanyo Racing with EssoRover 3500 V8
 Graham GoodeGraham Goode RacingFord Capri 3.0S
 Brian Muir (AUS)Patrick MotorSportRover 3500 V8
 Peter LovettTeam Sanyo Racing with EssoRover 3500 V8
 Tom WalkinshawTeam Sanyo Racing with EssoRover 3500 V8

Equipe Esso Capris prepared by CC Motorsport
Gordon Spice Racing Capris prepared by CC or Spice?
Dennis Leech's Rover was an ex-Patrick MotorSport car
Charles Sawyer-Hoare run by Andy Rouse.
Ford Capris allowed to drop 25 kilos compared to 1981.
Dougall and Muir Patrick MotorSport Rovers run by Martin Thomas.

Class B (1601-2500 cc)
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25Jon DooleyNapolina Alfa Romeo Dealer TeamAlfa Romeo GTV6 2.5
26James BurrowsJames BurrowsToyota Celica
27Mike BuckleyMike BuckleyFord Escort RS2000
28Arne Riis (DK)Arne RiisTriumph Dolomite Sprint
30Terry NightingaleTerry NightingaleMazda RX-7
31Hamish IrvineHamish IrvineTriumph Dolomite Sprint
33Tony DickinsonTony DickinsonFord Escort RS2000
34 R & C DevelopmentsMazda RX-7
 Erik Høyer (DK)Team CastrolFord Escort RS2000
 David Palmer Mazda RX-7
 Gordon Bruce Mazda RX-7
 Mike Kimpton Mazda RX-7

#34 likely to be either Gordon Bruce or Mike Kimpton, but the preview says that Ray Ellis will be the likely driver
Erik Høyer was entered under the Team Castrol name in contemporary Danish racing
The Arne Riis car was a Broadspeed Dolomite that was bought at the end of 1980 BSCC season.
All three Mazdas were all ex-TWR cars. Four of these cars were sold of early in 1982, three of which appear here, while the final car ended in South America.

Class C (1301-1600 cc)
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35John MorrisMorris Vulcan Ltd/Tri-ang ToysVW Golf GTI
36Tony Lanfranchi VW Scirocco GTI
37Robin BrundleRobin BrundleAudi 80 GLE
40Win PercyTeam Toyota GBToyota Corolla
44Jock RobertsonJulian May RacingFord Fiesta XR2
50John TaitJohn TaitToyota Corolla
51Alan GreenhalghRace Time Marketing LtdVW Golf GTI
52Andrew ThorpeNapolina Alfa Romeo Dealer Team with Hampshires of DorkingAlfa Romeo Alfasud Sprint Veloce
59Nick BaughMura Electronics LtdAudi 80 GLE
68John SpillerStanfield & WhiteTalbot Sunbeam ti
 Chris Hodgetts Toyota Corolla
 Pete Hall Toyota Celica
 Robin Brundle Toyota Celica
 Terry Watts Talbot Sunbeam ti
 Tony Crudgington Toyota Corolla
 Tony Dickinson Talbot Sunbeam ti

Tony Crudgington and Chris Hodgetts running the same car, which might also have been the John Tait car.
#59 Nick Baugh never made it to the grid. Car was former Stirling Moss car.
#44 entered as Julian May Racing. Was this the outfit that ended as North Essex Racing?
#36 build by John Maguire, sponsored by VW Motorsport running a Swindon-engine by Lanfranchi himself.
#40 Team Toyota GB run by Hughes of Beaconsfield.

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71Alan CurnowRoyal Mail Datapost Racing with EssoAustin Mini Metro 1.3HLS
72Roger SaundersWadham Stringer/Team CastrolAustin Mini Metro 1.3HLS
73Neil McGrathEverest Double Glazing with Linden RacingAustin Mini Metro 1.3HLS
74Steve SoperHepolite Glacier RacingAustin Mini Metro 1.3HLS
75Stewart FowlerStewart FowlerFord Fiesta
77Richard LongmanRoyal Mail Datapost Racing with EssoAustin Mini Metro 1.3HLS
81Jon DooleyNapolina Alfa Romeo Dealer TeamAlfa Romeo Alfasud 1.3ti
82Rob KirbyNapolina Alfa Romeo Dealer TeamAlfa Romeo Alfasud 1.3ti
95Andy DriverAndy DriverAustin Mini Metro 1.3HLS
99David da Costa Vauxhall Astra
 Richard Hurdwell Austin Mini Metro 1.3HLS

#95 Andy Driver never made it to the grid
#71 and #77 both Richard Longman Racing prepared and run.

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Good work guys!

From what i've managed to did up so far, Sytner ran as no 19 in the early season, and Lovett returned to replace him. As he won the big class in '81(suspect we'll have to continue our discussion series with 1981 soon....)he must've then ran as No. 1 and Allam as #2 on the cars? Certainly from your entry list they didn't start out like that! TW probably practiced the 19 car.

The red Corolla in WOCCOWAYCER's pics earlier could have been the John Tait car, although I think it was white early in the season.

I have a feeling that a driver from the smaller classes passed away sadly before the Whitsun Thruxton round and their car was either bought or borrowed by someone else, I can't recall who it was.

The list of Mazda's there is interesting as the only one's I can recall actually racing were Nightingale's which I believe was then taken over by Kimpton and Palmer's which might actually be seen in 'WOCCO's' earlier shot in the Maguire thread. (I'll copy it over to here). Apparently they were very difficult and incredibly expensive to run. I also doubt it's a coincidence that privateers found them to be, er herm, entirely different propositions to the cars they had seen dominate the second class in the previous 2 seasons.......

Plenty to investigate and discuss!!

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The list of Mazda's there is interesting as the only one's I can recall actually racing were Nightingale's which I believe was then taken over by Kimpton and Palmer's which might actually be seen in 'WOCCO's' earlier shot in the Maguire thread. (I'll copy it over to here). Apparently they were very difficult and incredibly expensive to run. I also doubt it's a coincidence that privateers found them to be, er herm, entirely different propositions to the cars they had seen dominate the second class in the previous 2 seasons.......

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The David Palmer car was mainly run in the ETCC with Holman "Les" Blackburn. This pairing even did the Brands Hatch Group C race late in the year. They continued in Group C in 1983 with a Mazda rotary engined Harrier C Junior becoming the first ever team to enter the catagory.

Here in Denmark Preben Kristoffersen raced an RX-7 beginning in 1981, but only by late 1982 had he got the car up to speed, which allowed him to win the national title in 1983.

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The David Palmer car was mainly run in the ETCC with Holman "Les" Blackburn. This pairing even did the Brands Hatch Group C race late in the year. They continued in Group C in 1983 with a Mazda rotary engined Harrier C Junior becoming the first ever team to enter the catagory.

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Yes, that's right, trying to remember the colour of the car. (Was it the basis for Blackburn's later Thundersaloon as well?)

There's a grey one in the Season review bearing no 34 I think. The shot was likely taken at the Silverstone International Trophy F2 meeting race?

However, the car in the Donington pic, now at the beginning of this thread, is still in TWR white and blue colours, from 1981.....
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Yes, that's right, trying to remember the colour of the car. (Was it the basis for Blackburn's later Thundersaloon as well?)

There's a grey one in the Season review bearing no 34 I think. The shot was likely taken at the Silverstone International Trophy F2 meeting race?

However, the car in the Donington pic, now at the beginning of this thread, is still in TWR white and blue colours, from 1981.....
The Palmer/Blackburn car was red - a color shot from that Brands Hatch meeting mentioned, made it into one of Janos Wimpffen's picture appendixes to "Time and Two Seats".
Discovered that Palmer was driving this white RX-7 during the 1985 Donington 500 and wonder if it is the same as the '82 car:
http://homepage.mac.com/frank_de_jon...Donington.html

The Gordon Bruce car is descriped as being ready wery late for the first round at Silverstone sporting "a delicate shade of grey primer". This seems to have been the only race Bruce did.

Mike Kimpton was the only RX-7 entry for the Donington July race, so it must be him in the white/yellow/blue car. I have found a note on this entry as being #30 Electroplan Racing.

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The David Palmer car was mainly run in the ETCC with Holman "Les" Blackburn. This pairing even did the Brands Hatch Group C race late in the year. They continued in Group C in 1983 with a Mazda rotary engined Harrier C Junior becoming the first ever team to enter the catagory.

Here in Denmark Preben Kristoffersen raced an RX-7 beginning in 1981, but only by late 1982 had he got the car up to speed, which allowed him to win the national title in 1983.

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Was Palmer's day job something fairly senior at Mazda UK- head of marketing or something like that from vague memory? He certainly seems to have appeared a lot in Mazda, or at least Mazda-engined cars

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The Palmer/Blackburn car was red - a color shot from that Brands Hatch meeting mentioned, made it into one of Janos Wimpffen's picture appendixes to "Time and Two Seats".
Discovered that Palmer was driving this white RX-7 during the 1985 Donington 500 and wonder if it is the same as the '82 car:
http://homepage.mac.com/frank_de_jon...Donington.html

The Gordon Bruce car is descriped as being ready wery late for the first round at Silverstone sporting "a delicate shade of grey primer". This seems to have been the only race Bruce did.

Mike Kimpton was the only RX-7 entry for the Donington July race, so it must be him in the white/yellow/blue car. I have found a note on this entry as being #30 Electroplan Racing.

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The white car at Donington in '85 was entered by Jeff Williamson Rallying, and the entry seems to have been very much a one-off- it wasn't seen at any other race that season, and I don't recall Williamson being a BTCC entrant at any point- Could it be the ex-Palmer car, or one of the other UK-based cars? Hamish Irvine had one as late as 1984, which I think was the last RX7 to start a BTCC race

The info from the preview a few posts back lists Terry Nightingale as #30- was Kimpton using Nightingale's car at Donington, or is it simply a coincidence of race numbers?
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