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Old 20 Aug 2018, 18:16 (Ref:3845046)   #61
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Pocono has completed some "upgrades" of late like the new wall out to the edge of the track on the Long Pond straightaway instead having the grass in play (this was after Steve Park's accident there some years ago in a nascar race). They even had a man standing out there during at least the yellow flag laps (couldn't get a glimpse of him during green laps).

I missed getting a pic of the man in the backhoe bucket, but this was a repair for which they seemed ill equipped and ill prepared.
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There was the threat of rain and it started to rain on the last couple of laps. I reckon they rushed the job in order to get race restarted and finished before the rain came.

With all that had happened, I don't think anyone would have wanted the race to be carried over to the next day.
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There was the threat of rain and it started to rain on the last couple of laps. I reckon they rushed the job in order to get race restarted and finished before the rain came.

With all that had happened, I don't think anyone would have wanted the race to be carried over to the next day.
It's never good to run a race Monday morning and you should never "rush" safety. Think that's easy to agree all around.

The manner in which it was fashioned together and what it looked like drew concerns from me as an arm chair fence specialist (many others including drivers seemed concerned). However, there's some shyte that I've fashioned together with zip ties and duct tape that worked wonders and I didn't get a close inspection of their work.

Glad no one had to test that section or any other section for that matter for the remainder of the race.
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I appreciate the effort and them wanting to get the race in, but that new stanchion is clearly there for looks only. I'm sure some of you have tied fence wire before and you know that was zip tied at best. I know nothing happened and it isn't a big deal, but moving forward I don't think they should do that again.
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Just so you know we're thinking about you Robert, from your twitter exchange a couple of days ago, mit Mercedes-AMG:
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Right then, maudlin enough? My apologies to the group....as we were.
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I appreciate the effort and them wanting to get the race in, but that new stanchion is clearly there for looks only. I'm sure some of you have tied fence wire before and you know that was zip tied at best. I know nothing happened and it isn't a big deal, but moving forward I don't think they should do that again.
Agreed. 100%.

And pretty sure some of that came from a family farm close by....

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Agreed. 100%.

And pretty sure some of that came from a family farm close by....
Reminds me of repairs I've seen made at some dirt track speedways.

Scary enough for Sprint Cars.....
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At our local dirt track speedway the poles are the same height as those,they plug in the ground and can be quickly replaced if damaged.
Although the fencing is only designed to stop tyres or debris flying into the crowd,they are not designed to stop a torpedo shaped car going over 200 mph from going through it.
The issue is what do you replace the netting on the fence with that is strong enough to stop a car,but doesnt restrict the crowds view?.
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I've always wondered if a system similar to ice hockey would work. Not a direct copy of it, but big 'plastic' sheets which are completely transparent. They wouldn't grab a car at all and would direct everything back into the circuit, which is what we're after. Obviously a lot of work would need done to make sure it takes an impact etc, but it's a nice thought.
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Wickens has had rods and screws inserted into his back during surgery. How much damage to his actual spinal cord and the full extent of his remaining injuries are still TBD.

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I'll preface this with the thought that catch fencing is both good and bad and now is the time to look at quick but adequate repair, while exploring other options.

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At our local dirt track speedway the poles are the same height as those,they plug in the ground and can be quickly replaced if damaged.
Although the fencing is only designed to stop tyres or debris flying into the crowd,they are not designed to stop a torpedo shaped car going over 200 mph from going through it.
The issue is what do you replace the netting on the fence with that is strong enough to stop a car,but doesnt restrict the crowds view?.
I wonder if the posts get deformed upon impact if it's impossible to replace in a reasonable amount of time?

And the catch fencing in question at Pocono prevented Rob from ending up in downtown Long Pond.


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I've always wondered if a system similar to ice hockey would work. Not a direct copy of it, but big 'plastic' sheets which are completely transparent. They wouldn't grab a car at all and would direct everything back into the circuit, which is what we're after. Obviously a lot of work would need done to make sure it takes an impact etc, but it's a nice thought.
It's a thought and 2.5 lineal miles of plexiglas won't be cheap!

Keeping cars from getting airborne and getting into the fencing is step 1. They've done well to do so but at times, shyte happens.
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Here is the latest on Wickens.

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Wickens has had rods and screws inserted into his back during surgery. How much damage to his actual spinal cord and the full extent of his remaining injuries are still TBD.

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Thanks for the many great moments in racing so far Robert, get well soon!!



Wow, that's very nice picture!

Get well soon, the best rookie of 2018
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