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Old 10 Jun 2021, 17:59 (Ref:4055600)   #351
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Old 10 Jun 2021, 18:18 (Ref:4055603)   #352
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Just saw that and came here to share, not surprised to be beaten to it! Awesome news if true
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Old 10 Jun 2021, 18:28 (Ref:4055607)   #353
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This has the potential to be glorious with convergence. Lets hope IMSA allows hypercars at Daytona
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Old 10 Jun 2021, 18:29 (Ref:4055608)   #354
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Well le mans 2023 looks like being rather full, they might even have to bring back a real qualifying round and some people will not get to race
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Old 10 Jun 2021, 18:51 (Ref:4055611)   #355
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Old 10 Jun 2021, 18:53 (Ref:4055612)   #356
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This has the potential to be glorious with convergence. Lets hope IMSA allows hypercars at Daytona
Lamborghini to make to make it VAG triplets is expected soon as well
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Old 10 Jun 2021, 19:07 (Ref:4055616)   #357
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good luck for ACO when will have to choose to please lmdh manufacturers interests or LMH ones.... it's inetivable soon or later these two "philosphies" will clash in a political conflict.
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audi, porsche -> multimatic-porsche (lamborghini too?)
GM -> likely dallara-ECR tuned GM (rebranded as corvette lmdh?)
acura -> oreca-HPD
bmw -> ??? guess ligier big nose would fit good with bmw big grills fetishism
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Old 10 Jun 2021, 20:05 (Ref:4055623)   #358
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I hope politics take a backseat but i fear with bop being the equalizer, someone or a few someone's will have words to say. But those are soon to be first-world problems.
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Old 10 Jun 2021, 20:36 (Ref:4055628)   #359
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I just hope they aren't all anaemic turbocharged V8s. Real variety in sound is the one thing DPi 1.0 has going for it.
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In today's podcast GG & MP hinted at Dallara.
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Old 10 Jun 2021, 21:31 (Ref:4055635)   #360
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I just hope they aren't all anaemic turbocharged V8s. Real variety in sound is the one thing DPi 1.0 has going for it.

In today's podcast GG & MP hinted at Dallara.
Don't worry, some of them are anaemic turbocharged V6s.
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Old 10 Jun 2021, 23:30 (Ref:4055640)   #361
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Phew! I was worried this was good news!
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Old 11 Jun 2021, 00:45 (Ref:4055641)   #362
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Don't worry, some of them are anaemic turbocharged V6s.
6 in line for BMW, I do not understand why, but the 6 in line always had better sound than the V6.
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Old 11 Jun 2021, 02:35 (Ref:4055649)   #363
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I just hope they aren't all anaemic turbocharged V8s. Real variety in sound is the one thing DPi 1.0 has going for it.

In today's podcast GG & MP hinted at Dallara.
GM will likely continue on with the V8 as is their way

Acura has a turbo V6 in their pocket

Porsche/Audi/VAG others have been rumored to be TTV8 from the Cayenne, that's also me assuming one shared engine

BMW have that very nice new I6 turbo they could use

So far we could have different engine build for each car.
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Old 11 Jun 2021, 03:27 (Ref:4055650)   #364
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Hopefully the 6 in line of BMW will sound as beautiful as this......
This is the pole position of Pechito Lopez with the Torino of Turismo Carrerteta in Potrero de los Funes 2009!!

https://youtu.be/4ylpwqJYE54
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IIRC using an I6 as a stressed component in a prototype is a very bad idea as it's too long and narrow to withstand the forces exerted on it.
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Old 11 Jun 2021, 05:59 (Ref:4055657)   #366
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Hopefully the 6 in line of BMW will sound as beautiful as this......
This is the pole position of Pechito Lopez with the Torino of Turismo Carrerteta in Potrero de los Funes 2009!!

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It sounds like this

https://twitter.com/NickYelloly/stat...778898952?s=19
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I don't believe that any stock block engines in DPI (nor the Mazda 4 banger) are being used as fully-stressed members.
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A I6 on the back of an lmp2 chassis is not that easy to fit, it would be required a lot of work... it basically needs the same longitudinal room of a V12, everything further complicated by the packaging of turbo parts.
What about an updated version of the dinan tuned bmw V8 5L?
old gran-am engines were in the range of 500-520hp only because heavily restricted
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Old 11 Jun 2021, 08:09 (Ref:4055681)   #369
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They could use the M6 GT3 engine. But I hope they find a way to use the straight 6.
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Well it took BMW an additional 13 hours to post effectively the same thing on their social channels. So it's doubly official. Still no press release that I can see. Want to see that WEC programme confirmed too.

Hopefully their race programme is more dialled than these comms!
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They could use the M6 GT3 engine. But I hope they find a way to use the straight 6.

a 4.4L twin turbo would be brutal, basically the closest thing to R18 amount of torque
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6 in line for BMW, I do not understand why, but the 6 in line always had better sound than the V6.
Often yes: https://youtu.be/ok9s8aEyv3w
But not always: https://youtu.be/akkZhqOS8xM

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I don't believe that any stock block engines in DPI (nor the Mazda 4 banger) are being used as fully-stressed members.
THIS

I'm sure the rules will once again provide the conditions necessary for a variety of stock blocks (up to a certain length).
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A I6 on the back of an lmp2 chassis is not that easy to fit, it would be required a lot of work... it basically needs the same longitudinal room of a V12, everything further complicated by the packaging of turbo parts.
You're saying it like Aston Martin didn't do just that with roaring success!
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You're saying it like Aston Martin didn't do just that with roaring success!
yes but loba b08/60, b09/60 and b10/60 were designed to fit a long V10 as was the judd, don't think it required a lot of work to fit also a V12.
Actual lmp2 chassis fit good for turbo V6 or NA V8 but yeah with some work guess it will be possible to fit a I6 turbo too
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It was an AMR-One joke.

Remember? It had a semi-stressed turbo i6 by Cosworth, which turned out to be such a great idea.
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I find it extremely tiresome to join the positivity thread and this good news be met with negativity.

It’s fine to discuss those point. Just not here. This was the place to enjoy good news - be miserable about the incoming golden age isn’t how you’d like it be elsewhere.
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