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Old 6 Aug 2020, 21:45 (Ref:3993428)   #26
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Old 7 Aug 2020, 09:00 (Ref:3993475)   #27
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playing devil's advocate a bit here...but how do we know the teams are not operating in the best/effective/most responsible way here?

had Perez' test come back earlier or on the monday after the event, we are not even having the conversation of 'scrambling' to find a replacement. in fact 'scrambling' may even be too harsh of a word in that Hulk was probably their first choice, he was clearly ready to drive, and had presumably done enough to keep himself covid free at home (or wherever he was).

but if they were to have a reserve driver in the paddock then that is the driver, their assistant, manager, and trainer who is also in the F1 bubble with them.

if each team just has 1 stand by driver then we are potentially talking about an additional 30 people in the paddock, 30 more people that need to be routinely tested, 30 more meals, 30 more hotel beds, more portocubicals at the venue, more uncertainty...it may not seem a large number but basically you are just increasing the risk for a possibility.

i think if you have a reserve driver then you need them to stay out of the bubble and hope they test clean before entering the bubble if and when needed.

and if it doesnt work out then you cant run your car...such is the reality of our times no? the overall integrity of the bubble should be more important than the risk of having to sit out a car or two.
With respect, I don't think all F1 teams have taken the reserve role seriously and for some it is a way of selling another package to a well backed driver without actually having them drive the car at all!

McLaren have nominated Di Resta at Silverstone who has driven ONE F1 race n 3 years, do we seriously think he is prepared to step into the McLaren if they have a problem. Mercedes with their zillion dollar budget, don't think it is worth their while to put Gutteritz in the car for 300km to get his licence up to date - just in case.

Who would Ferrari put in - Mick Schumacher?

Red Bull have fallen out wth more young drivers than they could count - who would they put in Buemi?

Hulk wasn't contracted to RP until Thursday evening before the race and made FP1 by literally minutes due to his covid test results coming back. If Hulk had been uncontactable or if Perez had tested positive on Sat morning, they would have had no one to put in the car - as it happened the car didn't make the race anyway.

I think we will see the teams take it more seriously, the FIA or FOM may even make it part of the regulations that they must have a qualified, prepared reserve driver.
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Old 7 Aug 2020, 09:27 (Ref:3993483)   #28
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Who would Ferrari put in - Mick Schumacher?
Giovinazzi, and Kubica would race for Alfa instead.
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Old 7 Aug 2020, 09:44 (Ref:3993488)   #30
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, the FIA or FOM may even make it part of the regulations that they must have a qualified, prepared reserve driver.
Why should they?
If the teams are prepared to take the risk of not having a driver it surely is on their own head.
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If the teams are prepared to take the risk of not having a driver it surely is on their own head.
Don't the teams have some sort of contractual obligation to field two cars at every race?
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They could put Wehrlein in there
Gio is already the Ferrari nominated 1st reserve. I think Wehrlein is on the list as well.
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Wehrlein is their simulator and reserve driver
I guess you need to inform Ferrari and Pascal that? Ferrari list him as a Simulator driver only, and on Pascal's website he describes himself as 'Official Simulator Driver'.

Giovinazzi - Reserve
Fuoco - Simulator
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Wehrlein - Simulator

Not that it's really important when it comes to who they choose if they have a current driver unavailable....
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Yawn. He’s available if he is needed. Therefore he’s a 2nd reserve driver in all but name
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Yawn. He’s available if he is needed. Therefore he’s a 2nd reserve driver in all but name
Trouble is, a 'name' can be all-important in F1. After all, we wouldn't want to find that he's not legally the reserve driver, would we......
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It’s not that easy to sort out. Calendars shifting around between F1 and all the other series - most of the best candidates are doing other things. Earning they living elsewhere. I can see why they don’t have things fully sorted, or at least easily to hand.

But obviously they are all stupid and not done anything about it. Idiots.

Allowing F2 drivers to step up, if they can, even without the requisite number of points is a good idea. They aren’t in the same bubble as each team, but close to hand and in a controlled environment with recent testing.

But has anyone thought that F2 isn’t at each F1 race? They haven’t even bothered to work out what the support calendar at Imola is yet - What are they playing at?! Idiots.

Or perhaps the FIA should just carry a spare Hulk around just in case.
Is there a need for support races for an event with no fans? Are they worried about all that downtime for the track workers? Need entertainment for the f1 drivers in between their sessions?
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They don’t, particularly for a one off race. Although it supports the other series and drivers so it is a good thing to do. The F2 and F3 series are shown on telly, including the F1TV so there is still some exposure.

Although remember the main thing is F1 is doing something wrong.
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They don’t, particularly for a one off race. Although it supports the other series and drivers so it is a good thing to do. The F2 and F3 series are shown on telly, including the F1TV so there is still some exposure.

Although remember the main thing is F1 is doing something wrong.
Of course. I mean, why are they adding personnel at the track for support series to race? That's very reckless of them. Putting more people in danger. Stupid f1.

No support races? How can they do that? The junior drivers need the exposure in front of the f1 teams. They need seat time and experience to develop. They can't just not race those series. Nor can they run those series separate of f1, because then the f1 teams won't be able to get as good of a look at the upcoming talents. Stupid f1.

Ridiculous that they have tires failing at the end of their life like last weekend. So dangerous and just ridiculous to have a race outcome affected like that.

Man, the races are so boring, they're predictable processions with no surprises. We know there's one stop, we know when, and we know what tires they're putting on. How boring. Stupid f1.

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