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Old 10 Jul 2005, 17:41 (Ref:1351916)   #1
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Pit-Row Contact (Contains Spoilers)

Have just clashed again in the pit row!
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Old 10 Jul 2005, 17:45 (Ref:1351919)   #2
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Shame Bourbais can't drive! Can't believe that with only half a front wing that PT is only losing .5 seconds a lap. Bourbais or PT should be done for dangerous driving, see last line for why I can't see who is offically to blame. I mean in the pitlane! He was clearly behind when they where side by side.

Just out of intreast who has offical right of way, car in front or car on the outside?
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Old 10 Jul 2005, 17:45 (Ref:1351920)   #3
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Can someone put the word SPOILER in the title maybe?
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Old 10 Jul 2005, 17:48 (Ref:1351922)   #4
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Declared racing incident.
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Old 10 Jul 2005, 17:57 (Ref:1351927)   #5
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Tracy's front wing is still on the track!!!
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Old 10 Jul 2005, 18:02 (Ref:1351930)   #6
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Tracy just ran out of fuel! How silly is this, I never been a fan of no pits under yellow and this is a major reason why.
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Old 10 Jul 2005, 18:04 (Ref:1351933)   #7
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I have never been a fan of Paul Tracy; however he deserved this one!
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Old 10 Jul 2005, 18:05 (Ref:1351934)   #8
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Tracy just ran out of fuel! How silly is this, I never been a fan of no pits under yellow and this is a major reason why.
I agree with here on this one!
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Old 10 Jul 2005, 18:38 (Ref:1351948)   #9
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It was a racing incident.

On the "no pitting" point - Tracy should have gone in anyway - even with a penalty it's still better than retiring.
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Old 10 Jul 2005, 19:17 (Ref:1351972)   #10
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What I'm unclear-of, and what would answer all the questions, is exactly where the blend-line is in Toronto. From watching replays, I noticed two distinct lines on the pavement. If the BLine was the first, then it was Bourdais' fault. If not, then vice-versa.

Bourdais clearly had a higher speed entering pit-out, but PT's was the last pitbox.
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Old 11 Jul 2005, 03:07 (Ref:1352198)   #11
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It looked to me like Bourdais' fault, but I can't answer macdaddy's question. It looked to me like Bourdais had to slam on the brakes (which he obviously wouldn't want to do in the pits) because PT had no where else to go and I thought was in front.

It's interesting that Bourdais has been the culprate of all the incidents this year. Who thinks of PT as the victim?

I thought it was a good call not to whip out the black flags, etc. While it shouldn't have happened, some incidents have to be determined racing incidents. I was also surprised that they left PT's wing out on the track. CC is normally a stickerly for safety, but I thought it was a risk worth taking.
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Old 11 Jul 2005, 11:38 (Ref:1352471)   #12
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By the time Bourdais cut in front of Tracy he was a whole car length in front (well, except for the bit that clipped PT), if PT had yeilded slightly it would have all been avoided.

It didn't look malicious so racing incident is the right call in my book.
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Old 12 Jul 2005, 02:57 (Ref:1353151)   #13
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This may have been discussed else where , after Carps crash at Surfers last year wasn't there a rule that said all cars on track had to have a full complement of front and rear wing ?

I agree racing incident. I like their duel at the moment though.
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Old 12 Jul 2005, 03:06 (Ref:1353154)   #14
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...wasn't there a rule that said all cars on track had to have a full complement of front and rear wing?
This was discussed during the telecast, and they even raised this point to Tony Cotman. He said that, because the remaining wing assembly seemed to be structurally sound, and his lap times were not affected, PT would be allowed to continue.
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This was discussed during the telecast, and they even raised this point to Tony Cotman. He said that, because the remaining wing assembly seemed to be structurally sound, and his lap times were not affected, PT would be allowed to continue.
Thankyou for that, arh how good it would be to get the CBS feed as opposed to the world feed.
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