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Old 6 Dec 2016, 16:13 (Ref:3694225)   #151
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Daniel Ricciardo would run rings around Hamilton in that Mercedes.
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Old 6 Dec 2016, 16:38 (Ref:3694231)   #152
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From what I've read and seen around the interweb, it seems to be Bottas at Mercedes with a suitable payday and invoice tearing up for engine deals for Williams and probably Pascal in the 2nd seat.

I don't think it will be Alonso, too much history with him as team mate to Hamilton before that Mercedes probably don't want to revisit.

Financially it seem that Mercedes have $15M per year to play with which is what they were due to pay Rosberg, so even a costly deal with Williams is 'cheap'.
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Old 6 Dec 2016, 16:50 (Ref:3694237)   #153
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Old 6 Dec 2016, 17:02 (Ref:3694239)   #154
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From what I've read and seen around the interweb, it seems to be Bottas at Mercedes with a suitable payday and invoice tearing up for engine deals for Williams and probably Pascal in the 2nd seat.

I don't think it will be Alonso, too much history with him as team mate to Hamilton before that Mercedes probably don't want to revisit.

Financially it seem that Mercedes have $15M per year to play with which is what they were due to pay Rosberg, so even a costly deal with Williams is 'cheap'.
Even with a massive engine deal, Williams would have a massive driver issue.

They would have a wet behind the ears 18 year old with half a dozen runs in an old car and a super licence which still has wet ink.
And who else?

These new cars are going to not just need developing but if the suggestions are right, taming. That means experience and leadership. There isn't any of that available.
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Old 6 Dec 2016, 17:04 (Ref:3694240)   #155
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How much would it be worth to Bernie to have the spectacle of having Hamilton and Alonso together in a top team?

Would he be willing to chip in a few million to see that happen to "improve the show" to convince Mercedes who might have doubts about the cost of a Alonso buy out and mess of having to deal with Hamilton and Alonso? Although I can imagine him being reluctant after the engine saga, I reckon he is also a pragmatic man.

Unlikely, but who knows.
Sorry to quote myself, but I suppose Alonse himself would be willing to accept a very meager salary to have a last chance at showing his worth in a top car. That together with some "show funds" from Bernie would help Mercedes swallow their (budgetary) pain.
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Old 6 Dec 2016, 17:17 (Ref:3694245)   #156
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Daniel Ricciardo would run rings around Hamilton in that Mercedes.
Trouble is, he wouldn't keep up with him on the track. Those rings are just too easy.....
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Old 6 Dec 2016, 17:33 (Ref:3694256)   #157
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Sorry to quote myself, but I suppose Alonse himself would be willing to accept a very meager salary to have a last chance at showing his worth in a top car. That together with some "show funds" from Bernie would help Mercedes swallow their (budgetary) pain.
I reckon you are right. Fred may do it for free.
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Old 6 Dec 2016, 18:01 (Ref:3694271)   #158
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We seem to be ignoring, consistently, the fact that Alonso is contracted to McLaren for 2017, and there is no hard evidence he has a get-out clause.
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Old 6 Dec 2016, 18:19 (Ref:3694275)   #159
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Yes, like Rosberg had a contract with Merc?
Lets be honest, Alonso would jump in that Merc for free and Merc would pay Mc..
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Old 6 Dec 2016, 18:26 (Ref:3694276)   #160
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We seem to be ignoring, consistently, the fact that Alonso is contracted to McLaren for 2017, and there is no hard evidence he has a get-out clause.
true, probably more fueled by wishful thinking but there is some (scant) evidence it is at least being discussed based on comments made by Wolff himself suggesting that they are looking at Alonso (although the cost of doing so is probably prohibitive).

http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/38219533

but then again maybe they are talking about a contract for 2018 which could then imply that whomever Merc sign for 2017 will just be there for one year.
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Old 6 Dec 2016, 19:09 (Ref:3694284)   #161
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In case alonso moves to merc then this would leave mclaren in a difficult situation driver wise with only vandoorne. Would mclaren call an experienced driver like button or massa?
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Old 6 Dec 2016, 19:53 (Ref:3694296)   #162
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In case alonso moves to merc then this would leave mclaren in a difficult situation driver wise with only vandoorne. Would mclaren call an experienced driver like button or massa?
Ditto for Williams with Bottas and Force India with Perez.
Might make all 3 teams that little bit more reluctant to release their driver if/when ...
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Yes, like Rosberg had a contract with Merc?
Lets be honest, Alonso would jump in that Merc for free and Merc would pay Mc..
But Rosberg hasn't gone off to race for someone else. Unless Alonso has a get-out clause, of which I have seen no evidence, McLaren has zero incentive to let him drive for a competitor. And they don't need the money to allow Merc to buy him out (nor would it be worth Merc doing so).
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Pascal Wehrlein will drive the Mercedes ..
In testing? On the simulator?
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Old 6 Dec 2016, 21:55 (Ref:3694328)   #165
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We know it's easy to get forgotten when you are driving a car at the back of the grid, I believe he has talent, so do Mercedes ..
He is young and more than up to doing a good job alongside Lewis, he is more the future than a driver like Fernando or Jenson don't you think ?
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