Sequential Gearboxes?

[Harves]

When are the V8's going to catch up with the rest of the world and introduce sequential gearboxes, it must be the only circuit based series that doesn't have them. I don't want hear it's because of the cost as a lunched engine due to missed gear would cost more.

That my 40 Euro's worth any thoughts?

[dangeradam]

i think some people were using them in a roundabout kind of way earlier in the season, they were looked at and now no longer use them.

Am i right or wrong people ?

[pete55]

Good chance they will be used next year i hear.

[Also a Believer]

That was confirmed a fortnigt ago during a conversation I over heard at willowbank...a well known V8 stallwalt and a carerra cup sponsor cahtting about the cost of going sequential in 05

[Also a Believer]

That was confirmed a fortnigt ago during a conversation I over heard at willowbank...a well known V8 stallwalt and a carerra cup sponsor cahtting about the cost of going sequential in 05

[Joe5619]

I thought a sequential gear boxs was part of the changes for next year??? Unless they get nocked back, we should see them in use next year!!!

[Harves]

Good

[GROUPA]

hopefully...and change the diff ratio so they can truly hit 300 down conrod rather than bouncing off the limiter

[Dazz]

Sequential box's are for wimps.

I know some people don't see it, but it is removing another skill from racing in my opinion.

[HDTVKSS]

Dazz, i agree. Just cause the rest of the world does it, doesnt mean that it has to be done here. Will it improve the show? no, not really imho.

changing gearsis part of driving a race car. rev management is part of driving a race car. looking after your equipment is part of driving a race car.

If you start taking things like H- pattern gear changing away, then doesnt the skill level required to pilot a v8 at the top level diminish, even if ever so slightly?

[jaytor]

Dazz, I agree as well. Just look at F1, removing driver aides rather than adding them.

[Hybrid]

I have a six speed in my car and although I find it quick I still have problems sometimes wondering just where I am. With a gate I could sort of feel what gear I was in - if you can understand that.

[Harves]

Daz, come on most road going cars have them, it's like saying get ride of power steering cause that's a drivers aid. It's called progress.

[rdmdog]

Im with Daz, all those roadies fitted with them are autos anyway.

[marcus]

I understand why they would want it , but I'd prefer them to stay the way they are because it adds another element to the race , missed shifts , picking the wrong gear , staying too long in selected gear , it all adds to the excitiment of it all.

But if thats the way they want to go then fair enough.

as for progress hmmmmmmmm , arent we still using pushrod engines ?

[rdmdog]

Put your hand up if you have tried to lift up a Nissan RB20 Cylinder head, then tell me there is a problem with Pushrods and Iron, Arr Arr Arr.

[Harves]

Good point about the donk marcus but you can still stay in the selected gear for to long with sequentials.

[rdmdog]

And pull the lever the wrong way/too early!!

[Harves]

Yeah I did that once and the engine went BANG....lucky it was a Hyperstim.

[Mattracer]

Originally posted by Dazz
Sequential box's are for wimps.

I know some people don't see it, but it is removing another skill from racing in my opinion.

"Wimps" might be going a bit far, but sequential shifting is a driver aid, no two ways about it. On the grounds of cost saving, then yes, there is a point, but so too is there a point in drivers changing up and down with mechanical respect and knowledge. The best drivers can adopt either methid but ask yourself, what would you rather see at the end of Conrod- driver X pulling back on the stick three or four times to make he chase or the same driver hooking back to fourth then second beautifully controlled? I know what I'd rather.

[cow]

Your right Dazz "wimps" is the word. Murphy did a 2 6 at Bathurst and he said he missed a gear The lap would not have been as good with a sequential box. it take out the fun..

[Mattracer]

How quick would it have been had he not snagged first out of The Dipper? This is where the real skill lies- how awesome would that have been, over and above what it was anyway?

[alfasud]

Originally posted by rdmdog
Put your hand up if you have tried to lift up a Nissan RB20 Cylinder head, then tell me there is a problem with Pushrods and Iron, Arr Arr Arr.

Never tried lifting a Nissan RB20 Cylinder head, but what most people remember about Nissans, was that they were banned from aussie touring car racing because they made the pushrod V8's look like dinosaurs.... opps, that's right... they are dinosaurs aren't they?

I think the rule makers should decide if this is a 'modern' or 'historic' series and then the answer will become clear.

[naughtymutt]

some people like the sound a seq box / engine makes as the driver has to go back down through all the gears.

[Jack racer]

Most damaging over revs happen when the driver uses the engine to assist in braking and goes a little to far. This will still happen with sequential. The only thing it will help with is miss shifts which usually don't do to much damage if any.