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Old 17 Jun 2002, 16:18 (Ref:315490)   #1
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2002 Manufacturer's battle...

Does Ford have too much advantage in aero & downforce charisistics?They r way ahead in MFGR's points & have 6 wins,thus far,compared to only 3 wins 4 each of the other MFGR's cars!
Manufacturer's point standings after Michigan r as follows:
1)Ford 104 Leader
2)Chevrolet 82 -22
3)Dodge 76 -28
4)Pontiac 69 -35

Any thoughts on the great disparity in above No's?

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Old 17 Jun 2002, 17:56 (Ref:315557)   #2
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Nascar figures they owe Ford one.
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Old 17 Jun 2002, 23:08 (Ref:315764)   #3
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Nascar figures they owe Ford one.
That's short & sweet!Seems to Me that Ford still has way too much downforce advantage,IMO!Where's Tim B?
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Old 18 Jun 2002, 00:13 (Ref:315780)   #4
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I for one do not care anything about the manufacturer's championship in NASCAR. It is totally meaningless, just like the World Driver's Championship in Formula One. Why? Because you can't have a real manufacturer champion in a drivers series (NASCAR) or a driver champion in a manufacturer's series (F1).
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Old 18 Jun 2002, 02:19 (Ref:315805)   #5
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Good point Joe.

24T...my comment comes from the fact that over the past 20 years Chevy has one 15 mfg's championships, Ford has won 4 & Buick 1. I'll have to dbl check my numbers, but think that is correct.
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Old 18 Jun 2002, 17:39 (Ref:316276)   #6
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Finally found the post I made about the Mfg's Title over the past 20 years & here is the correct stats...

chevy won 14 manufacturer's cups, ford 5, buick 1 & pontiac 0.
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Old 18 Jun 2002, 18:21 (Ref:316314)   #7
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Finally found the post I made about the Mfg's Title over the past 20 years & here is the correct stats...

chevy won 14 manufacturer's cups, ford 5, buick 1 & pontiac 0.
Well maybe they do owe Ford one
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Old 19 Jun 2002, 02:52 (Ref:316643)   #8
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Of course DW, Jeffie & D. Earnhardt won a lot of races to help Chevy win some of those Mfg's Champs.
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Old 19 Jun 2002, 22:42 (Ref:317235)   #9
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Re: RE:Lars

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Where's Tim B?
I'm here. I check the forum several times a day. But if I don't see anything I want or need to reply to, I don't. Sometimes I just lurk...
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According to the Official NASCAR Rule Book, Rule 12-4-A, "actions deemed as detrimental to stock car racing", NASCAR should be fined and put on probation.
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Old 20 Jun 2002, 02:14 (Ref:317287)   #10
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Sometimes I just lurk...
You racing perv...lol. J/K
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Old 20 Jun 2002, 08:31 (Ref:317381)   #11
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I said I lurked, not peeped. So that makes me a Lurking Tim, not a Peeping Tom.
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Old 20 Jun 2002, 21:59 (Ref:317894)   #12
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I said I lurked, not peeped. So that makes me a Lurking Tim, not a Peeping Tom.
Be careful there,there're laws against stalking these days
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Old 20 Jun 2002, 22:09 (Ref:317898)   #13
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I'm here. I check the forum several times a day. But if I don't see anything I want or need to reply to, I don't. Sometimes I just lurk...
Tim B.--Please just reply to My posts sometimes anyway,since My posts r never worth replying to anyway ,as I'd still like to say howdy to U once in awhile,whether U'r a perv or not
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Old 20 Jun 2002, 22:11 (Ref:317900)   #14
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Of course DW, Jeffie & D. Earnhardt won a lot of races to help Chevy win some of those Mfg's Champs.

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Old 21 Jun 2002, 04:24 (Ref:318034)   #15
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Ok- Now what's all happening in this thread?
Tim B's a perv??
He's a Peeping Tom?
Gheesh! Why am I always the last to know?
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Old 21 Jun 2002, 15:03 (Ref:318241)   #16
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The topic title is 2001 Manufacturers Battle, yet it appeared to me that the 2002 season was being discussed, I'm not being "picky", I didn't even click on this until now because I thought it was about last year.

It's too early to predict the Manufacturer's Champion.
There are too many races left and anything can happen, JMO.
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The topic title is 2001 Manufacturers Battle, yet it appeared to me that the 2002 season was being discussed, I'm not being "picky", I didn't even click on this until now because I thought it was about last year.

It's too early to predict the Manufacturer's Champion.
There are too many races left and anything can happen, JMO.
Topic title is 2002 MFGR's Battle & it is abt this season as regards aero & downforce ad/disadvantages among different Makes & impact on MFGR'rs point standings!Perhaps an eye test is in order
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Ok- Now what's all happening in this thread?
Tim B's a perv??
He's a Peeping Tom?
Gheesh! Why am I always the last to know?
Hello,Roselady3--Join the club as I'm usually the last 1 to know
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24T is just a year behind the rest of us!
No,actually that'd make Me a year ahead of U,but I'll let U catch up
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But being the nice guy that I am...I'll fix it for him/her!
Lars--Nothing to fix,well at least on topic title ,btw I'm a 44 year old male around Dayton.OH.area!
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Ummm, Stan was right, it did say 2001 until I changed it.
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Ummm, Stan was right, it did say 2001 until I changed it.
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