BARCse Tin Tops 2007

[phansa88]

last year it was as long as they had a tread on them and i ran on 032r

[graham bahr]

Originally Posted by Minicross424

Im a bit confused about 1a and 1b tyres in tin tops.
My mini 1380cc runs on 032r yokos.
It that going to be ok if not im going going to have to shell out alot on tyres!

because there is a huge performance difference between 1A and 1B tyres the classes are now split depending on both engine size and tyre type

032r's are 1B tyres so you would go in class T3

T3 Upto 2000cc 1A
upto 1600cc 1B
upto 1600cc forced induction 1A

[Tim Falce]

Originally Posted by graham bahr

because there is a huge performance difference between 1A and 1B tyres the classes are now split depending on both engine size and tyre type

032r's are 1B tyres so you would go in class T3

T3 Upto 2000cc 1A
upto 1600cc 1B
upto 1600cc forced induction 1A

Ah, it's all nice and simple then

[Al Weyman]

They have a similiar rule in classic thunder, run 1a or 1b and drop a class which panned out nice for me as I actually won me class at Brands!

[Alan Cherry]

Greetings from Düsseödorf !
What would the Astr be in next year (tin tops) 2 litre list 1B tyres (Toyo's}
up against similar and over 2 litre on list 1A ?


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[Eddy V]

Düsseldorf eh? I'll go outside and wave to you Alan.

[graham bahr]

Originally Posted by Alan Cherry

Greetings from Düsseödorf !
What would the Astr be in next year (tin tops) 2 litre list 1B tyres (Toyo's}
up against similar and over 2 litre on list 1A ?


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T2 Unlimited CC 1A
Over 1601cc forced induction 1A
upto 2000cc 1B

there you go alan.

a good few years ago when we ran road going classes in DTR the smaller engined 1B cars would usually beat the bigger engined 1A cars, although the bigger engined 1A cars did have bto have an interior, so it shoul dbe pretty even in tin tops

[andypipe]

Originally Posted by Al Weyman

They have a similiar rule in classic thunder, run 1a or 1b and drop a class which panned out nice for me as I actually won me class at Brands!

You mean you actually finished a race

[Al Weyman]

Originally Posted by andypipe

You mean you actually finished a race

Quite a few how about you? The two with the DTRC at Brands GP for example that I am sure you as i recollect failed to finish either of them yer cheeky sod!

[Al Weyman]

So can someone fit an aftermarket turbo or supercharger in Tin Tops as well?

[graham bahr]

yes Al, but RWD cars have to run a manditary 32mm inlet restricter, 4wd is banned, and fwd really would struggle to put down big turbo power so it should all be quite even

[graham bahr]

this thread is supposed to be about DTRC but seeing as a lot of you want to talk tin tops here the basic class structure

Class Engine option Tyre option

T1 unlimited CC 1B
over 1601 forced induction 1B

T2 Unlimited CC 1A
Over 1601cc forced induction 1A
upto 2000cc 1B

T3 Upto 2000cc 1A
upto 1600cc 1B
upto 1600cc forced induction 1A

T4 upto 1600cc 1A
upto 1300cc 1B

T4 upto 1300cc 1A



Any car fitted with a non original engine to make and model shall be moved up a class in terms of engine capacity,

most of the regs are common to DTRC but, NO Spaceframes, Steel bodied cars only, no 4WD, no Sequential gearboxes, maximum of 6 cylinder engines

[STEVED]

T2 it is then for the Golf.

[Tim Falce]

Graham, why differentiate between list 1a and 1b tyres on the classes.
It just looks like it's getting complicated before it starts and a fair bit of policing will be needed to stop rule bending. I.E you could start a day on list 1a dry tyres and finish on list 1b wets or vice versa. What happens to the classes then?

[graham bahr]

because if you didnt differenciate between tyres you would either need twice as many classes or those on 1A tyres would be totally uncompetitive,

to behonest tim tyres are one of the easiest things to police, unlike engines etc, just by looking at the sidewall you know exactly what they are, i cant see that much tyre swapping between types going on because its so easy to spot, if i driver wishes to swap tyre type they could simply be reclassed of classified, dont forget though its not a championship, its a series of races aimed and novices, occasional drivers or simply those who find DTRC TOO competitive

[chezza]

I'm sure somebody was asking if the tin-tops round at Rockingham was supporting the SCSA and pick-ups, well it would appear so!

[andy97]

Can anyone post a draft calendar for the BARC-SE Tin Tops, just to give us all an idea what's planned.

[andypipe]

Try here

[Minicross424]

Yea it was me Chezza thanks for that.
And thanks Graham for clearing that up regarding the tyres.

[barry barnes]

Originally Posted by graham bahr

its a series of races aimed and novices, occasional drivers or simply those who find DTRC TOO competitive

Wot about a class for GERIATRICS !!!!!!, can I run my Clio in it if I change from standard wheel size ?

[phansa88]

I thought most of us are GERIATRICS all ready anyone who has to have a medical when you look at the rule book and that has to be at least 80% of us

[Dom]

Hi, i'm looking to race my fiesta again in 2007 - have previously raced in the BRSCC Ford Saloons but that now looks very expensive and for 2007 is all double headers in wales it seems! I'd thought about the BARC TRC's but my car's pretty much standard now and I suspect would be eaten alive by some of the machinery. I've heard talk of a Tin Tops championship but can't find any info or regs on the BARC website and Rod Birley's website has only some dates.

Any pointers folks?

[Eddy V]

Just mail or PM Rod, he'll do the rest. Would be good to see you out again.

[Minicross424]

We got an idea of how many runnners and riders we are going to have?

[Chris Y]

There's also the CSCC TinTops Dom, which you may be getting confused with.