BARCse Tin Tops 2007

[STEVED]

Me in a MK2 Golf 16v Class T2

[Dom]

Originally Posted by Chris Y

There's also the CSCC TinTops Dom, which you may be getting confused with.

OMG! properly confused now Chris! although somehow I don't think it would be a full grid at Daytona!

There seems to be a confusing array of clubs all doing the sameish thing - but after trawling though a lot of regs it seems my 'almost' standard is likely to be seriously outgunned. What's now annoying is that my car is too modified for the likes of 750mc Stock hatch.

[STEVED]

What car? What spec?

[Rod Birley]

Dom, send a "PM" to Graham Bahr. He will tell you the regs. The dates for the Southern tin tops are almost complete. Entry fees start from £135, for two races at Lydden.

[andy97]

Originally Posted by Dom

OMG! properly confused now Chris! although somehow I don't think it would be a full grid at Daytona!

There seems to be a confusing array of clubs all doing the sameish thing - but after trawling though a lot of regs it seems my 'almost' standard is likely to be seriously outgunned. What's now annoying is that my car is too modified for the likes of 750mc Stock hatch.

The Classic Sports Car Club's "Tin Tops" series is for production saloon/ hatchbacks, under 2 litres, 4 cylinder, non turbo/ supercharged (except diesels). Original silhouette and Original engine, gearbox and induction system type to be retained.

40 min races for 1 or 2 drivers, with mandatory pit stops.

Class A - 1601-2000 multi valve
Class B - 1601-2000 dual valve and 1301-1600cc multi valve
Class C - 1301-1600 dual valve and up to1300cc multi valve
Class D - Up to 1300 cc dual valve
Class E Invitation
Cars are to run on List 1A/1B tyres

Where possible Tin Tops competitors get Pit garages.

The provisional calendar is:

Apr 21/22 Snetterton
May 05/06 Brands Hatch
June TBC
Jun 24 Mallory Park
July 07/08 Cadwell Park
Aug 11 Oulton Park International
Sept 22 Silverstone National

[barry johnson]

[quote=andy97]The Classic Sports Car Club's "Tin Tops" series is for production saloon/ hatchbacks, under 2 litres, 4 cylinder, non turbo/ supercharged (except diesels). Original silhouette and Original engine, gearbox and induction system type to be retained.

Before you get all the stock hatches excited, the rules above only mean that the basics have to stay the same ie no 2ltr novas etc, you will find that a lot of the cars run quite sophisticated engines on race cams ,throttle bodies, oversize wheels and big brembo brakes etc, Having said that it is a very good series and if you spend your money wisely on a small engined car could do well in the 8 valve class.

[Ali Rushforth]

Originally Posted by Dom

OMG! properly confused now Chris! although somehow I don't think it would be a full grid at Daytona!

When I expressed an interest in going to Daytona, nearly all the places had been taken by people interested in going.

Thats not to say they have all be taken yet, but it shows the level of interest.

[Ali Rushforth]

Originally Posted by barry johnson

Before you get all the stock hatches excited, the rules above only mean that the basics have to stay the same ie no 2ltr novas etc, you will find that a lot of the cars run quite sophisticated engines on race cams ,throttle bodies, oversize wheels and big brembo brakes etc, Having said that it is a very good series and if you spend your money wisely on a small engined car could do well in the 8 valve class.

Not sure which cars you refer to here, possibly the Honda's?

I know the class structure has been altered slightly to try and even things up a bit.

But like you also said, a smaller engined car, or a less sophisticated engine, could still do very well overall.

[Dom]

Originally Posted by Ali Rushforth

When I expressed an interest in going to Daytona, nearly all the places had been taken by people interested in going.

Thats not to say they have all be taken yet, but it shows the level of interest.

Crikey! how much does it cost to transport your car and kit for that then?!

[andy97]

From the Classic Sports Car Club's web site:

"The CSCC will be organising a trip for its members and their cars to the Daytona Continental Historic Race meeting in November 2007.

The total price of approximately £ 3,300 will include:

• RO-RO shipping for race car and delivery/return to Daytona Intl Speedway
• Return flight for driver and guest (out & back Tuesdays)
• Extra flights negotiable
• 7 days B&B in local hotel for 2 people
• All practice, qualification and races throughout the weekend, Wed – Sunday

All members of the Classic Sports Car Club are eligible for this offer
(£30 annual membership fee for electronic Newsletter; £35 for paper Newsletter, current until 31st Jan 2008)".

I believe that fianl costs will be firmed up at the Autosport Show but with the dollar at a healthy exchange rate at the moment it should not get much, if any, more expensive IMHO.

[Tim Falce]

There is complete thread dedicated to the Daytona trip here http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90035
Price and itinerary have changed and although it is now bit more expensive I think you get more time out there than originally stated.

[RushyRacer]

If anyone needs clarification about either the original CSCC TinTops which races at circuits around the UK or the Daytona trip being organised by the CSCC eith check our web site www.classicsportscarclub.co.uk or come and see us on Stand CM23 Hall 10 at the Autosports show.

[Minicross424]

I ran into two guys i know at Autosport on friday.
One has been racing a fiesta in the one make series and is looking for better value for money and the other has a nova that was been used at arena essex in the euro class ( it has windows, lights a cage etc) a class that Rod proberly know more about.
Would they be welcome in the tin tops or would the fiesta be better off in the dtrc?

[Rod Birley]

Depends on how modified they are, and whether they want to race on treaded or slick tyres. Graham Bahr has all the technical regs but I think he has a computor probelem today.

[Dom]

Is the SE tintops a new series for 2007 as I can't find any info on it on the BARC website. Also wondering how I would would register and enter races?

[chezza]

Hi Dom...I'll PM you with some info rather than take up a load of space here.

[Shawn]

A registration form can now be downloaded from here

[chezza]

Fantastic Shawn, thanks for that!!

[Tim Wilkinson]

What's the class structure? Filling out the registration form, and not sure where a 1998cc 16v car running on R888s or AO48s would go.

Also, is your license number the same year on year? Haven't got this years back from the MSA yet.

[Dom]

Originally Posted by Tim Wilkinson

What's the class structure? Filling out the registration form, and not sure where a 1998cc 16v car running on R888s or AO48s would go.

Also, is your license number the same year on year? Haven't got this years back from the MSA yet.

I reckon that's class T2 (up to 2000cc List 1b tyres) according to my draft copy of the regs.

I'm pretty sure the license number stays the same.

[Minicross424]

How much are entrys for the rounds this year?
And what has happened to the Rockingham event supporting the pickups?
Cant say im too impressed about that being removed after telling sponsors about it!

[chezza]

I'm not entirely sure I think they changed the date or changed their minds or something...remember until events actually happen they're provisional...

Entries for Lydden are £135 I think and the others are dependant on who they're with and where they are!

[Rod Birley]

We are trying to keep all the entries below £200. Lydden is £135 and you do get TWO races for that. Rockingham is a shame. We tried very hard to secure a slot, but the BRSCC have used most of the time for their own stuff (trying to be diplomatic here!!).
There will be the challenge at Brands in early May though.

[STEVED]

Ooh bring it on, How many have registered for this so far? Will we see grids like the DTR.

[Minicross424]

I cant get the link from shaun for the reg form.
Could be my computer.