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Old 10 Jan 2020, 23:11 (Ref:3950947)   #1176
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GP cars from the '50's;
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Old 10 Jan 2020, 23:14 (Ref:3950949)   #1177
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And sports cars;
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It's a Lister Jaguar Coupe Viv, any fool knows that, well I did.
You mean "As any fule kno".

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Old 11 Jan 2020, 08:26 (Ref:3950977)   #1179
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Re the Scarab in post 1176, it could have only been designed in the 50's the 1st car was completed in March 1960. During 1960 the car was entered in 6 of the 10 GP's, The cars did not make Argentina, Faied to start in Holland & France, did not qualify at Monaco, both cars retiring in Belgium and just one car entered & fnished at USA. The cars sole GP finish was tenthh, So only 3 starts all in 1960 and just one finish.

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Old 11 Jan 2020, 09:05 (Ref:3950980)   #1180
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Old 11 Jan 2020, 09:13 (Ref:3950981)   #1181
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Re the Scarab in post 1176, it could have only been designed in the 50's the 1st car was completed in March 1960. During 1960 the car was entered in 6 of the 10 GP's, The cars did not make Argentina, Faied to start in Holland & France, did not qualify at Monaco, both cars retiring in Belgium and just one car entered & fnished at USA. The cars sole GP finish was tenthh, So only 3 starts all in 1960 and just one finish.
I did not include the Monza Jaguar, because I knew you would take issue with that as well.
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Old 11 Jan 2020, 09:14 (Ref:3950982)   #1182
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Old 11 Jan 2020, 09:20 (Ref:3950983)   #1183
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Must keep the mix going;
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I did not include the Monza Jaguar, because I knew you would take issue with that as well.
That one is a different ball game as it was not a GP car. It was built for the 1958 version of the race of Two Worlds at Monza where Indy type cars raced against F1 sports cars as in 1957. The Lister Jaguar single seat car proved to be slower than the Ecurie Ecosse D types, although Fairman did beat the d types in Heat 1 despite being several laps behind the winning Indy car. One of the D types failed to start heat 2 and the Lister finished several laps down again. It failed to start heat 3 which was won by the Indy Car again and he was awarded the race.
The race was only run in 57 & 58 and the Lister ran just the once before reappearing several years later.

Any pictures of the other 1 offs that took part Bob?
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Old 11 Jan 2020, 16:51 (Ref:3951036)   #1185
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That one is a different ball game as it was not a GP car. It was built for the 1958 version of the race of Two Worlds at Monza where Indy type cars raced against F1 sports cars as in 1957. The Lister Jaguar single seat car proved to be slower than the Ecurie Ecosse D types, although Fairman did beat the d types in Heat 1 despite being several laps behind the winning Indy car. One of the D types failed to start heat 2 and the Lister finished several laps down again. It failed to start heat 3 which was won by the Indy Car again and he was awarded the race.
The race was only run in 57 & 58 and the Lister ran just the once before reappearing several years later.

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The only other one I recall was the 'Ice Cream' Maserati. and I don't think it ever raced at Silverstone.
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The only other one I recall was the 'Ice Cream' Maserati. and I don't think it ever raced at Silverstone.
There was also a one off Ferrari built for 58, well fairly sure it was a one off.
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The only other one I recall was the 'Ice Cream' Maserati. and I don't think it ever raced at Silverstone.
Ah, the (Maserati) Eldorado as driven at Monza by Sir Stirling, until he had a bit of an off. The only other race it ever ran was the following years Indy 500, albeit without the Monza tail fin so definitely never made it to Silverstone as Bob said. Privately entered at Indy by the ice cream making sponsor (Eldorado), the first European race car to be sponsored by a non-automotive company, it failed to qualify, and never raced again.

Edit: Found an interesting article / race report of the 1958 Monza race in MotorSport:
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/a...-500-mile-race

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I'm feeling old tonight;
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Very old;
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Still these always cheer me up;
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Really enjoying this thread Bob, even though I have no idea what a lot of the cars are.
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Bob, thanks for posting the photos. I've just finished looking from page 40 onwards, roughly where I last saw it, and really enjoyed it. Now going to look at the calendar to plan events to visit.
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Thank you chaps for your kind remarks, it is not often I get much on this forum.
A few nice old cars, older even than me.
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An odds & Sods batch to mull over.
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An back to my era, the fifties, and some beautiful sports cars to drool over;
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One more lot then I'm off to bed; Goodnight all.
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Good to see the old cars still in action. You deserve a rest after all this posting
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