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Old 19 Jan 2010, 19:57 (Ref:2615881)   #1
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Irish Rallycross Metro history

Have been going through some old pics of Metros that have been used by Irish drivers over the years and just trying to piece together the history of who had what cars and where they went

Dermot Carnegie : Red & White car

John Maloney : Red(white front bumper), Lime green(yellow front bumper), Green & White(x F Patterson), White(x Haffey?? or Kittle??), Black

Norman Kittle : White(with green stripes)

Fred Patterson : White(dayglo orange trim) did this become the dark green and white Village Homes car

Denis Biggerstaff : Blue and White, then red, yellow & blue???

George Tracey : Blue & White, is this the x Carnegie car

Aiden Creegan : White

Dan Donoghue : red, x Twomey car???

Lawrence Gibson : red, yellow and blue....how many cars has he used over the years



I do know that the red Maloney car is currently being restored in N.Ireland
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Old 19 Jan 2010, 20:09 (Ref:2615889)   #2
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Gibson has used at least 2 shells - I seem to remember he sold a spare shell a few years back only to buy it back almost straight away as he'd binned the 6R4 in a big way and had to reshell. He ran the 6R4 in a white scheme for a while (not sure which shell that was!)
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Old 20 Jan 2010, 09:09 (Ref:2616148)   #3
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Dermot Carnegie reshelled his Metro at one stage also. I don't think Tracey's is a Carnegie car. He debuted the reshelled one at Mondello's round of the ERC around 90 or 91 and had all sorts of problems with punctures. He did finally get a clean run to win the C final as my memory serves.

There was another on not on your list, Robert Moffet ran a (white?) Metro at one stage also. Not sure where he got it or where it went.

The Moloney 6R4 was sold to John Haffey from whom he then bought it back IIRC. Didn't he do likewise with his Escort?
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Old 20 Jan 2010, 09:46 (Ref:2616165)   #4
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Didn't Dermot buy the ex Steve Palmer car, then beat him th the British title?
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Karl Cleary used to hillclimb a 6R4 which I think was one of Denis Biggerstaff's.

He destroyed it on the Ballyalban hill a few years ago. I heard that he started to rebuild it but it's probably a very long term project
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Old 20 Jan 2010, 19:42 (Ref:2616517)   #6
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Karl Cleary used to hillclimb a 6R4 which I think was one of Denis Biggerstaff's.

He destroyed it on the Ballyalban hill a few years ago. I heard that he started to rebuild it but it's probably a very long term project
Last I heard (a few years ago) it was still in the Biggerstaff workshop, partially repaired




forgot about Moffets car
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Old 21 Jan 2010, 10:35 (Ref:2616851)   #7
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Kenny McKinstry had a red one. Can't remember what year or who it was passed on to though....
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Old 21 Jan 2010, 14:44 (Ref:2616974)   #8
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As far as i know, Dermot's car was built from a Rally car & not previously used in rallycross. this car was subsequently used by peter Faulkner , Laurence Gibson & is indeed the car now owned by george tracey.
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Did Dan Donoghue buy Terry Briggs 6R4 or was it Ian Rowlance that bought it?
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george tracey bought it , never used it & sold it to Dan Donohue
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Old 21 Jan 2010, 15:22 (Ref:2616985)   #11
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george tracey bought it , never used it & sold it to Dan Donohue
As far as i know the Guy Williams, mine and Terry's ex 6r4 was sold to George and the 3.6ltr engine fitted to Georges car and the remainder of the car is now in Wales!!
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Isn't this now owned by Bob Copeland?
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GT's is Dermots old car. Was the best sorted Metro between all in IRL & GB while Dermot owned it, Eamonn Byrne prepared it to the highest standard
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Dermots car was an ex peter Slights rally car.

Biggerstaffs original blue car Im not sure, but h the second one was hte big 3.8 FGoodmans thing Steve Palmer ran.

I think Moloney ran an ex rally car too? not sure.
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as far as i know dan donoghues was an ex carnegie car at some stage and is now owned by bob copeland and i was told a while back that biggerstaff still has his 6r4 up in his garage
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