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Old 17 Feb 2004, 22:11 (Ref:877655)   #1
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Abandoned race circuits

So more for the book,

what are the must haves in the project?

Sitges, Brooklands, Crystal Palace, Kiemola and the Sudschliefe are all in (the last four are now written).

But where else - Spa and Monza will probably make it in... Solitude is a possible. Brno is looking promising.

Are there any others that must feature?
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Old 17 Feb 2004, 22:26 (Ref:877665)   #2
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What about the old Enna - the flat out dash round a lake - maybe the Targa Florio ? Rheims - flat out dash round some trees & countryside - wonderful concrete pits remain - Rouen - as above without the concrete - in view of your flexible interpretation of abandoned how about Hockenheim ?

I accept Longridge doen't really cut it.....
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Old 17 Feb 2004, 23:21 (Ref:877730)   #3
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Ops, I don't get it...

ss_collins, what book are you talking about? Are you writing one on defunct tracks? (sorry, I was out of the forum for a while. Can you please point to a thread or something like a website of yours?)

If so, I strongly recommend (if you don't have them yet):

1.) "Lost Race Tracks, Treasures of Automobile Racing", by Gordon Eliot White, published by Iconografix, P. O. Box 446, Hudson, Wisconsin, 54016, USA, ISBN 1-58388-084-4;

2.) "The History of America's Speedways - Past & Present", 2nd. Edition, by Allan E. Brown, Comstock Park, MI, United States, 1994, ISBN 0-931105-42-0.

And, of course, a visit to Daniel King's excellent Racing Circuits website, http://www.racingcircuits.net.

josvandepierre, Enna cannot be considered an abandoned race track - it is pretty much active! Actually, with the cancellation of the Bahrein race (as announced earlier today) the European F-300 championship will start its 2004 season at this very Sicilian track.

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Old 18 Feb 2004, 08:30 (Ref:878026)   #4
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Syracuse,Rome (several circuits) Turin,Milan,Albi,Montjuich,
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Old 18 Feb 2004, 09:36 (Ref:878058)   #5
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Agree woth jos that Reims and the Targa should definitely be on. Maybe Bremgarten and Clermont Ferrand as well.
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Old 18 Feb 2004, 18:07 (Ref:878509)   #6
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Old circuits

Rouen-les Essarts in Northern France,I have a book on this circuit written in French
I have a recent book by Peter Swinger "Circuits in England-Then and Now" on old and new UK circuits many of the old ones are now out of use.
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Old 19 Feb 2004, 00:23 (Ref:878893)   #7
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Hello, Lister,

Watch out - Peter Swinger's book has a few innaccuracies.
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Old 19 Feb 2004, 08:17 (Ref:879066)   #8
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Thanks Muzza,
I must admit I have not read all of it,I'll see if I can spot the errors!
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Old 19 Feb 2004, 09:06 (Ref:879107)   #9
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Ooh - go on - what are the inaccuracies - I use that book as a bible
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Old 19 Feb 2004, 09:31 (Ref:879115)   #10
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Oh there are quite a few errors in the swinger book, got a few things wrong on Crystal Palace and Brooklands.

Muzza yes I have book coming out called Autodrome: Europes lost circuits.

Yes I forgot Riems

The book is very much then and now but not like the swinger book, this one will be stuffed with previously unseen photos, and new ones of the citcuits today by our own Gi_Gav. Also I'm doing some through digging on each circuit - ie. 1899 was the first Crystal palace event for example which hasn't been noticed by anyone.
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Old 19 Feb 2004, 10:05 (Ref:879143)   #11
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I was hoping i could post on this without my bias being obvious!

Targa Florio would certainly be photogenic, and Solitude is just phenomenal.
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Old 19 Feb 2004, 13:23 (Ref:879339)   #12
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Solitude is a must I think.

Targa Florio - would like to do it - buts its a long old way!
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What about the old, very long part of Le mans?? When the two sides met up somewhere in the centre of town...
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Definitely Rouen. This is good

http://www.lugnutsracing.com/rouen.html

but the trip dates back 5 years. I gather there isn't much sign there was ever a race track there now....
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