Elva Mk 3, 4 and 5

[Racer 35]

Looking at the threads, there seems to me to be a rather large hole in the Elva chassis archive. Maybe I'm just sensitive as I own a Mk4, but it would be nice to know where these cars are, and what condition they're in.
So, to start the thread, here's the details of my car:

Elva Mk 4
Chassis No 100/67
Works car in '59 (Continental Motors), won class at Sebring 12 hours driven by Baptista/Tweedale/Wallace. Continued to be raced by Frank Baptista in '59.
Sold late'59 to Ed Costly. Raced Sebring again in '60, finished 2nd in class.
'61, sold to Dutch Orstand. Cov Climax engine swapped for Ford 1500cc (still fitted)
Mid 60's: Ferrari 750 Monza engine fitted (I kid you not )
1970 Bought by Greg Miller, of FAF Ferrari in Atlanta, for the MOnza engine, and left outside in a woodpile!
Bought by Ralph Whaley in 1980, to restore. Sadly he never quite got around to starting the project.
Bought by Mike Cammarata in 1986, and restoration started, albeit slowly. During the restoration Ed Costly came to view the car.
Bought by me in '03, and raced infrequently in Gentlemen Drivers, Cloth Cap... etc

[PeterMorley]

This is what I have from Stan Mason, I've indicated whether they are restored or being restored, not listed those that are in storage/unknown:

Mark 3

100/46 (restored)
Ernst Walla Dortmund, Germany CC1221 ForSale, RGB Rundstreckenrennen October 2001? (Switzerland99) K. Shearer Adelaide Australia,Bill Custer GlenLake Racing,R. Kison MN, AJ Stahl St. Paul midwest raced at 60 RA 200mi, 58 SebringMartin/Baptista/Warren(owner), imported 10/7/57 B Martin Vogue Motors Chicago

100/47 (restored)
(Felix Chiu98)(Bill Harmon96)(Mid 60s to 90Don Poskin Continental Motors Chicago?converted to Alfa Eng)

100/48
(Richard Gaines) Lolita?,58 Baptista Car?

100/49 was a Mark 2 (restored)
(Richard Scott02) white headrest (Ned McDaniels90) Sid Horman Cal Club, Bill Hinshaw Salt Lake City62, Dan Abbot (Chassis plate MkII body is MkII with set back engine & brake air intake)

100/51 (restored)
(Alex Quanttlebaum Jr.)yellow 30th reunion Mid-Ohio Dark Blue driven as street car sometime in it’s life with full height windscreen brackets earlier white with stripe

100/52
Ray Baptista

100/53 probably a Mark 2 (restored)
Wolfgang Mathai German car Raced at 04 AvD Oldtimer Grand Prix, White with alloy wheels Nurburg Ring and Rome Race, identified as MkIII looks like a MkII, built July 22, 1957, Raced at Connellsville, PA 8/9/65

100/56
John Ratting UK

100/60
(Wayne Carter90s?)(Gordon Keller) Headlamps high in fender (Bentley Sebring Car?)

100/65 (being restored)
(Stan Mason87)(Walter Donicki NY85)(Cap ChenowethVT83?)(Stewart BoneNJ76)(Lenny Wilson NJ?) East Coast Car Converted to Larger Engine FM 62 SCCA Vineland NJ, >62 Baby Blue white racing stripe through grill, originally white

100/66 (being restored)
(Jim Wickiser 68 Pueblo West Colorado), 65 Bruce Monroe Indianapolis, IN, 7/29/67 Road America USSRC, 11/64 Eugene Johnson Memphis, TN, 2/64James Diamond Rochester, NY, 60 Bishop Hines Lockport NY, <60 Kenmore Sports Cars, Riplety Motors Ithaca NY?

Unidentified:

Possibly 100/61 (restored)
(Jack Leiss) 59 Sebring

Possibly 100/63L (restored)
(David Keenleyside) MkV Suspension Prototype

(Jon Clifton86) Washington State chassis modified to straight side bdy mag wheel hubs

Piazzo Car Pa?

Gary Roberts 93 1500cc Ford (raced in California 1964), 59 Henry Schmidt?

Mark 4

100/67 (restored)
01Mike Cammarata 86Ralph Whaley, 70 Greg Miller w/Ferrari 750 Monza Engine 62 Wilkins Ferrari?,63 1500 Ford Dutch,

100/69 (restored)
(Bill Davis) BRG “Puddle Jumper” Current Firberglass, Originally Aluminium Body first MkIV

100/70
(Jon Clifton) Aluminum Bodied Car Chuck Dietrich original Car Raced in England

100/71
100/72
100/73
All 3 were 1959 Sebring cars, unknown today

100/74L (restored)
(Franklin Rudolf) Yellow,Charles Crail

100/75
(Unknown Today) (Autosport Advertised) Alfa 1300cc Engine

100/76 (restored)
04 Dotti, 90sWill Foster, 80sCap Chenoweth

100/77L (being restored)
01 Jon Clifton, 90s Franklin Rudolf

100/79
(Unknown Today) Harold Pace sold in 05on ebay

100/82
Ed Costly #60 1961 Sebring Entry

100/84 was a Mark 5

100/85L
Ed Costly 2nd GM 1500cc Alfa Engine

100/86
04Tom Grunovich, Bob Russel for sale 04 $43K, Tom Ellsworth

100/87
Vern Harvey (50th Elva Reunion), 70s Eric Caple

Mark 5

100/84
(Ken Baurle)

100/91
(?) Chuck Dietrich original car

100/93
Andrew Stein

100/94
(Ian Carpenter), Ellis Jim, Pete Cocoran

100/96
(Jon Clifton)

100/99
Whit Ball

100/101
(George Clark)

100/103
Tim McCann

100/104 (restored)
(Dave Berger)

[chrisks]

I owned 100/63L,in the late 70s.This was certainly a Mk 4.

[PeterMorley]

Originally Posted by chrisks

I owned 100/63L,in the late 70s.This was certainly a Mk 4.

Can you add anything to its ownership history, names/dates??
Thank you
Peter

[chrisks]

Bought from M Cameron in Southend inSept 1980.

Sold to Alan Miles in Bournemoth soon after.

[John Turner]

Copied over from the Goodwood 2007 thread:-

Originally Posted by John Turner

Simon Peach took the rare Elva Mk4 to 19th:-

Which chassis no. is it?

[henk4]

Originally Posted by John Turner

Copied over from the Goodwood 2007 thread:-



Which chassis no. is it?

I saw one at Silverstone in 2005 in exactly the same colours, which was 100/67

[henk4]

Originally Posted by henk4

I saw one at Silverstone in 2005 in exactly the same colours, which was 100/67

and the owner of that car is the one who started this thread, so we could get confirmation

[PeterMorley]

Originally Posted by PeterMorley

Mark 4

100/67 (restored)
01Mike Cammarata 86Ralph Whaley, 70 Greg Miller w/Ferrari 750 Monza Engine 62 Wilkins Ferrari?,63 1500 Ford Dutch,

100/69 (restored)
(Bill Davis) BRG “Puddle Jumper” Current Firberglass, Originally Aluminium Body first MkIV

100/70
(Jon Clifton) Aluminum Bodied Car Chuck Dietrich original Car Raced in England

100/71
100/72
100/73
All 3 were 1959 Sebring cars, unknown today

100/74L (restored)
(Franklin Rudolf) Yellow,Charles Crail

100/75
(Unknown Today) (Autosport Advertised) Alfa 1300cc Engine

100/76 (restored)
04 Dotti, 90sWill Foster, 80sCap Chenoweth

100/77L (being restored)
01 Jon Clifton, 90s Franklin Rudolf

100/79
(Unknown Today) Harold Pace sold in 05on ebay

100/82
Ed Costly #60 1961 Sebring Entry

100/84 was a Mark 5

100/85L
Ed Costly 2nd GM 1500cc Alfa Engine

100/86
04Tom Grunovich, Bob Russel for sale 04 $43K, Tom Ellsworth

100/87
Vern Harvey (50th Elva Reunion), 70s Eric Caple

I've heard from Alessandro Poggianti in Italy who bought 100/79L from Harold Pace.
He gave me the following information:
I am the owner of this car from 2005, I bought the car from Harold Pace on ebay.
I restored the car, I put in an Alfa Romeo SV engine of the 1958 (the first serie) because I found on the literature that the L-type chassis were predisposed for this particular engine. Indeed I found in the car an AlfaRomeo gearshift.
I restored the car body in english green I found in the car originally.

I will add some of the photos Alessandro sent me asap.

[PeterMorley]

Here are some photos of Alessandro Poggianti's Mark IV 100/79 with Alfa Romeo SZ engine.

[ElvaMKII]

Elva MK III Chassis 100/54 is is San Diego, CA> It was purchased by current owner in court auction in mid-1990’s from Gary Clark.

The car was raced by Tom Greatorex, who was Shelby's mechanic at Venice, CA, and who helped to build the Cobra Coupe.

The car is for sale. Contact bobengberg@aim.com if interested.

[johnarnold]

I have Elva Coupe No E1130E: Lotus Twin Cam, independant rear, would anyone have any information on this car, anything would be of interest.
John.

[D-Type]

In addition to the self-coloured, aluminium bodied, 1172 Ford and later Climax-powered Mk1 or Mk 2 raced by Colin McNaughton in Kenya that I described on the Mk1/Mk2 thread there was a second Elva in Kenya in the fifties. This was a fibreglass-bodied Mk3 or Mk 4. This had an 1100 Climax, was initially dark blue (self colour of the GRP) and was later resprayed in BRG. The body did not have a driver's headrest. I'm not sure of the owner but the name J W Hickman comes to mind, but after fifty years my memory may be at fault here.

[Racer 35]

Originally Posted by henk4

and the owner of that car is the one who started this thread, so we could get confirmation

Yep, my car carries chassis number 100/67, however this is almost certainly incorrect.

The car had no chassis plate when it was discovered, but it was certainly Ed Costley's car which he took to 2nd in class, and 37th overall in the '61 Sebring 12 hours. He viewed the car during restoration, and wrote a letter detailing the modifications he made to the body for the 12 hour race. I also have a video taken from his home-movie of the event which stars my car, and the bottom of every pretty woman he saw through the lens

Ed says he bought it direct from Continental Motors in '59, and that it was a works car in that year, having run at Sebring. He also said that there were 2 for sale at the time, a blue one and a green one. He took the green one, which was in maintained better, and in better condition. Ed seemed to think that it was therefore the Frank Baptista car that took the class win at Sebring in '59, but that's not 100% sure. Frank's son and widow were guests of honour at it's first race after restoration, at Atlanta.

Unfortunately, during restoration,Mike Cammarata (the fine Georgia gentlemean that restored the car to it's former beauty) was advised by the experts of the time (mid-late '80s) that the car was chassis no 100/67, though it now seems that 100/67 may not have been a mk4 at all. The car is in fact certainly in truth either 100/71, /72, or /73. But which one? I'd be grateful of any help in this matter!

One day I'll put a Cov Climax back in it, repaint it in Continental Motors colours, and sort the chassis number out. Or maybe not.

[Alan Brown]

Originally Posted by ElvaMKII

Elva MK III Chassis 100/54 is is San Diego, CA> It was purchased by current owner in court auction in mid-1990’s from Gary Clark.

The car was raced by Tom Greatorex, who was Shelby's mechanic at Venice, CA, and who helped to build the Cobra Coupe.

The car is for sale. Contact bobengberg@aim.com if interested.

This car appears to be the one that was for sale at the Coys Auction at Brands Hatch on Sunday (24 May).

http://www.coys.co.uk/auctions/lot.p...on=89&id=56529