Biante Touring Car Masters Series

Peter Nightingale · 17 Sep 2007, 03:43 (Ref:2015185)

Can anyone tell us what is happening with this series and if it still exists, all is very quiet on their front, was it such a good idea going alone outside of Historics after all ???

peckstar · 17 Sep 2007, 03:46 (Ref:2015187)

sure watched them on the weekend at sandown, will watch them again at bathurst

Thunder1 · 17 Sep 2007, 03:47 (Ref:2015188)

Hi Peter
The series is live and well below is a link to the website

http://www.touringcarmasters.com.au/

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Originally Posted by Peter Nightingale

Can anyone tell us what is happening with this series and if it still exists, all is very quiet on their front, was it such a good idea going alone outside of Historics after all ???

Peter Nightingale · 17 Sep 2007, 03:51 (Ref:2015190)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

sure watched them on the weekend at sandown, will watch them again at bathurst

On TV , not over here.........

**GTRMagic** · 17 Sep 2007, 03:54 (Ref:2015192)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

sure watched them on the weekend at sandown, will watch them again at bathurst

Is Mr Richards scheduled to drive Mr Hunter's Chev Camaro again?

It wasnt the quickest thing in a straight line, but the driver was absolutely consistent in braking points and where the car sat on the road... every lap... so when the hotshots with the better grunt blew past on the front straight, and the brakes started to complain, Mr Richards still had plenty in reserve..

peckstar · 17 Sep 2007, 04:00 (Ref:2015193)

watched them live Peter at the track

Why was there a Datsun (i think) racing around with them. it didnt seem to fit

**GTRMagic** · 17 Sep 2007, 04:36 (Ref:2015199)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

Why was there a Datsun (i think) racing around with them. it didnt seem to fit

It was Steve Mason's former ride... replaced by a Chev Camaro... his son Cameron took the steer...

Alan52 · 17 Sep 2007, 04:36 (Ref:2015200)

The Biante Series has not been on TV this year but will be on 7's coverage of the Muscle Car Masters this Saturday and their Sunday morning race at Bathurst will also be shown.As for the Datsun the series is only open to Franchise holders and as these have been thin on the ground this year with smallish grids by past standards the rule the organisers have had to let in a car thatwasn't quite what was envisaged in their original vision.

**GTRMagic** · 17 Sep 2007, 04:39 (Ref:2015202)

The Datsun is a nicely presented little car though.... puts a few of the others in the same field to shame!

peckstar · 17 Sep 2007, 04:41 (Ref:2015203)

thanks Alan.

its seemed out of place, the rest of the field ran pretty close together, but the Dato was lapped after 4 laps and i would imagine thats not what the series organiser planned

**GTRMagic** · 17 Sep 2007, 04:44 (Ref:2015205)

It also had a flat engine at one point, which wouldnt have helped. If I recall correctly, Mr C.Mason was also a P-plater at this meeting...

coln72 · 17 Sep 2007, 05:00 (Ref:2015210)

It actuall did finish though, which from memeory is better that a couple of others did...... Why not winge about the Porche as well.

IMO both these cars represent what touring car racing was like in the past, so why not.

peckstar · 17 Sep 2007, 05:02 (Ref:2015211)

well if the datsun wasnt there i may have. But the porche was able to hang on to the back of the field. thats is the difference

Pro Racer · 17 Sep 2007, 06:47 (Ref:2015260)

i used to love this series when it was historics and the Torrana's etc used to be in it not just the V8's, but i still love it.

coln72 · 17 Sep 2007, 07:21 (Ref:2015293)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

well if the datsun wasnt there i may have. But the porche was able to hang on to the back of the field. thats is the difference

but it still finished where a couple of trhe v8's didn't

peckstar · 17 Sep 2007, 07:28 (Ref:2015297)

sure speedy thexton did that in the v8s, didnt mean he belonged there

Camaroz · 17 Sep 2007, 11:12 (Ref:2015517)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

watched them live Peter at the track

Why was there a Datsun (i think) racing around with them. it didnt seem to fit

My understanding is that there are three/four levels of TCM Franchises! And it is not limited to V8's (a common misconception).

Over 5 Lt, 3.5 - 5 Lt, 2 Lt - 3.5 Lt and up to 2 Lt. The concept is to represent the period with cars that raced in the period (as it is in Nb/Nc). This should be extended to cars that were eligible to race here (AMC Javelins / Challenger / Chevelle (well they let in then Falcon Sprint?). The TCM does offer high exposure (to those that can afford it) on the V8SCA card and freedoms to make the cars more reliable. The Datto had every right to be there! When the Stillwell's bring out the Escort(s) and add the two 105 Alfa's and the two RX3's, the Datto will not look out of place!

Jum dud good in the Camaro! I hope he's in it at Bathurst! It will have rear disc's by then.

racer69 · 17 Sep 2007, 12:32 (Ref:2015612)

It's funny, the general thought (i took it anyway) was when the Biante Series broke away from being a 5th category that Group Nc would be left to struggle abit, while the Biante Touring Car Masters would flourish.

Going by the Muscle Car Masters (i wasn't at Sandown), the exact opposite has happened (bearing in mind of course the MCM is an historic meeting), especially as the Biante Series could only muster about 15 cars for its final race that weekend.

Any word on the rumour that the Biante Touring Car Masters were going to increase the eligibility years beyond 1973 (to around 1975?)

275 GTB-4 · 18 Sep 2007, 10:31 (Ref:2016677)

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Originally Posted by racer69

It's funny, the general thought (i took it anyway) was when the Biante Series broke away from being a 5th category that Group Nc would be left to struggle abit, while the Biante Touring Car Masters would flourish.

Going by the Muscle Car Masters (i wasn't at Sandown), the exact opposite has happened (bearing in mind of course the MCM is an historic meeting), especially as the Biante Series could only muster about 15 cars for its final race that weekend.

Any word on the rumour that the Biante Touring Car Masters were going to increase the eligibility years beyond 1973 (to around 1975?)

Was at Eastern Creek Historics on the weekend....Group N has bounced back, very good field of varied cars and good, good racing....a very healthy sign

Heidley · 18 Sep 2007, 12:05 (Ref:2016811)

The Biante Touring Car Masters is not in a very heathly state when you have11 cars finishing race 2 and 3 at sandown.

275 GTB-4 · 18 Sep 2007, 13:39 (Ref:2016944)

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Originally Posted by Heidley

The Biante Touring Car Masters is not in a very heathly state when you have11 cars finishing race 2 and 3 at sandown.

Well that is sad to hear....I was disappointed with the split from traditional Group N but thought it good they were putting on a show at the "high profile" meetings. With any luck...it will be easy to get rid of the new mods and take the cars back to be Fifth Category eligible

Heidley · 19 Sep 2007, 01:31 (Ref:2017533)

The split has been be a waste Biante under the Group 5 banner as it was before it was a great show, the few who wanted the split to make there cars more reliable has not done so. the advertising dollar and media is not there weather its Australia Muscle Car Masters Series or Biante Historic Touring Cars you are still lowest bill on the card at V8 Supercar Meetings

Peter Nightingale · 19 Sep 2007, 02:15 (Ref:2017551)

I do not think they are wanted back into the 5th catergory .......

DAVID PATERSON · 19 Sep 2007, 08:01 (Ref:2017648)

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Originally Posted by racer69

It's funny, the general thought (i took it anyway) was when the Biante Series broke away from being a 5th category that Group Nc would be left to struggle abit, while the Biante Touring Car Masters would flourish.

Going by the Muscle Car Masters (i wasn't at Sandown), the exact opposite has happened (bearing in mind of course the MCM is an historic meeting), especially as the Biante Series could only muster about 15 cars for its final race that weekend.

I don't know anybody who thought Group N would struggle without the "heroes". I certainly didn't think the TCM would be a huge success either.

MCM isn't a historic meeting.

275 GTB-4 · 19 Sep 2007, 13:01 (Ref:2017921)

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Originally Posted by Pro Racer

i used to love this series when it was historics and the Torrana's etc used to be in it not just the V8's, but i still love it.

Go to an Historic meeting in your state...guess what?? Torries are still a favourite weapon!!

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