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Old 17 Dec 2017, 15:33 (Ref:3787663)   #1
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SILVERSTONE 'INTERNATIONAL' HSCC

The annual alternative to Silverstone Classic. 'The right crowd without the crowding', to coin a phrase. Later in 2018, and includes GTSCC again.
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Old 9 Jun 2018, 07:07 (Ref:3827786)   #3
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What is the point of running races 6 &13. With only 7 cars of very different capabilities, FF2000 to F1, and on the GP circuit.
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What is the point of running races 6 &13. With only 7 cars of very different capabilities, FF2000 to F1, and on the GP circuit.

That is undoubtedly a very pertinent question.


One might also wonder why the entry is so small, especially when Silverstone offers one of the best options for the F5000s, for example, to get up to full speed.


Presumably there is a reason - or perhaps several reasons.
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Old 9 Jun 2018, 20:02 (Ref:3827861)   #5
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Well this weekend there is the America Fest at Brands Hatch and there are a dozen F5000's entered for a demo even, so maybe to short a turn around time?
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DBT have had falling grids for a while.
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Well this weekend there is the America Fest at Brands Hatch and there are a dozen F5000's entered for a demo even, so maybe to short a turn around time?

4 of those are Lyons family cars it seems.


1 is also entered for Silverstone.


4 or 5 others are relatively regular DBT runners.


Maybe we will see a few late entries for Silverstone.
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Old 12 Jun 2018, 09:39 (Ref:3828607)   #8
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Sadly the only interest to me is Mike and Simon in the SLR, not sufficient to make it worthwhile travelling 40 miles for.

Sorry Mike.
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Old 12 Jun 2018, 10:23 (Ref:3828614)   #9
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There happens to be a Euro F2 round at this this meeting, a HSCC series.

This seems to have drawn away some of the F2 entries from the DBT.

Had my car been ready (which it isnt) I also would have done the pure F2 race instead of the DBT race.

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Sadly the only interest to me is Mike and Simon in the SLR, not sufficient to make it worthwhile travelling 40 miles for.

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And so you should be! I'm racing in the Jag Challenge as well, in a mates E Type, but know they don't excite you....

Will be good to have John Emberson's SLR with us in GTSCC as well. I've just dropped it off on return from Dijon to be re-prepped for the weekend.
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And so you should be! I'm racing in the Jag Challenge as well, in a mates E Type, but know they don't excite you....

Will be good to have John Emberson's SLR with us in GTSCC as well. I've just dropped it off on return from Dijon to be re-prepped for the weekend.
Could be in for a wet race looking at the latest forecast.🙁
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And so you should be! I'm racing in the Jag Challenge as well, in a mates E Type, but know they don't excite you....

Will be good to have John Emberson's SLR with us in GTSCC as well. I've just dropped it off on return from Dijon to be re-prepped for the weekend.
I am off (MSV permitting) to Donington for the VSCC Meeting on the 24th. More to my taste than hundreds of 1960's FF of one sort or the other, and similar F1, 2, 3 4, 5 ….. of the same era. Due to my advanced years I find this modern stuff all rather boring. Only the Guards has some slight interest, but not enough to drag me up to a maybe wet Silverstone. Enjoy your drives Mike, I will ask a friend to get a few pictures for the MOG Mag so watch out for the man with the camera.

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Just got a new entry list-14 DBT Cars and 21 Pre 80 Cars with 2 or 3 more for eah class along with 25 F2 and 30 CF3
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Old 13 Jun 2018, 21:56 (Ref:3829167)   #14
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Just a quick one, here's the updated entry list for those interested:

http://www.silverstone.co.uk/wp-cont...nal-Trophy.pdf

That's a better looking entry, now just need the weather to play ball and stay dry Saturday afternoon.
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"More to my taste than hundreds of 1960's FF of one sort or the other, and similar F1, 2, 3 4, 5 ….. of the same era."
PAH! Bauble..... The best Historic racing there is! and there you are watching cars out of the Ark poodle past when you could be on the edge of your seat watching proper racing, with respect to each other, with precision and, dare I mention it, EXCITEMENT...there, I did....I am a bit biased I must admit.... Dick D HFF Drivers rep....

ER, Geordie Craig, I think you have last year's entry list there ol' chap.

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ER, Geordie Craig, I think you have last year's entry list there ol' chap.

YES- 2017 entry list.....
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"More to my taste than hundreds of 1960's FF of one sort or the other, and similar F1, 2, 3 4, 5 ….. of the same era."
PAH! Bauble..... The best Historic racing there is! and there you are watching cars out of the Ark poodle past when you could be on the edge of your seat watching proper racing, with respect to each other, with precision and, dare I mention it, EXCITEMENT...there, I did....I am a bit biased I must admit.... Dick D HFF Drivers rep....

ER, Geordie Craig, I think you have last year's entry list there ol' chap.
Each to his own as Shakespeare probably said, but a long line of silly cars driving along one behind the other is not my pot of coffee. But you younger chaps seem to enjoy it. In my somewhat less than humble opinion Formula Ford was one of the worst things to happen to motor sport ever. It has generated a stream of ………………… Oh! I won't go on it will only upset you.
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Each to his own as Shakespeare probably said, but a long line of silly cars driving along one behind the other is not my pot of coffee. But you younger chaps seem to enjoy it. In my somewhat less than humble opinion Formula Ford was one of the worst things to happen to motor sport ever. It has generated a stream of ………………… Oh! I won't go on it will only upset you.

...a stream of Grand Prix drivers ? A stream of pure racing - no aero , no paddles - for 50 years ? Or perhaps a stream of affordable and different chassis- just about the only single seaters which aren't all Dallaras?



I enjoy VSCC stuff too but I really , really struggle to understand why anyone would not approve of FF1600 ? Or was it that the affordability undermined the right crowd and no crowding ethos ?



It's 150 miles plus - each way - for me but I think an early start is beckoning ...
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...a stream of Grand Prix drivers ? A stream of pure racing - no aero , no paddles - for 50 years ? Or perhaps a stream of affordable and different chassis- just about the only single seaters which aren't all Dallaras?



I enjoy VSCC stuff too but I really , really struggle to understand why anyone would not approve of FF1600 ? Or was it that the affordability undermined the right crowd and no crowding ethos ?



It's 150 miles plus - each way - for me but I think an early start is beckoning ...
Once they did away with 500cc Formula 3 cars everything went to hell on a handcart, ushered in the loutish behaviour of the masses, with the advent of FF, and changed the face of motor sport forever, and for the worst.

I can remember at least two separated meeting waiting at Copse with camera poised to capture the inevitable accident, only to find that it had all happened long before the field reached the first corner. On both occasions not a single car got that far.
A prime spot was the end of the old Club Straight before the 'Complex' was put in. A horde of FF's hurtling into the corner five or six abreast, and at least half of them spinning, and triggering chaos. All very entertaining, but not racing as I see it.
Senna is a prime example of the attitude to rivals that was engendered by starting in karts and Formula Fords. That nice Mr Button was another with a tendency to knock people out of the way.

Some people enthuse over a Spitfire fly past, but for me it all about painful memories of a childhood in war time.

You see it is very much an age thing, so forgive a crusty old curmudgeon his bigoted and biased view of your idea of excitement.

Roll over bars, roll cages, Hans devices, spacemen helmets, fire extinguishers, flame proof undies, safety cars, why I remember a time when Motor Racing was Dangerous.
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So do I , even though the era of 500 cars was well before my time. But if this was 1958 it's possible you'd be bemoaning the loss of the riding mechanic.



I maintain that in 50 years of going to motor sport events, FF1600 has offered some of the finest , cleanest and closest racing I have ever seen , but, as they don't say much where I live - chacun a son gout .
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Once they did away with 500cc Formula 3 cars everything went to hell on a handcart, ushered in the loutish behaviour of the masses, with the advent of FF, and changed the face of motor sport forever, and for the worst.

I can remember at least two separated meeting waiting at Copse with camera poised to capture the inevitable accident, only to find that it had all happened long before the field reached the first corner. On both occasions not a single car got that far.
A prime spot was the end of the old Club Straight before the 'Complex' was put in. A horde of FF's hurtling into the corner five or six abreast, and at least half of them spinning, and triggering chaos. All very entertaining, but not racing as I see it.
Senna is a prime example of the attitude to rivals that was engendered by starting in karts and Formula Fords. That nice Mr Button was another with a tendency to knock people out of the way.

Some people enthuse over a Spitfire fly past, but for me it all about painful memories of a childhood in war time.

You see it is very much an age thing, so forgive a crusty old curmudgeon his bigoted and biased view of your idea of excitement.

Roll over bars, roll cages, Hans devices, spacemen helmets, fire extinguishers, flame proof undies, safety cars, why I remember a time when Motor Racing was Dangerous.
This attitude is probably why few people frequent this forum these days,and even fewer people bother to comment.
There's another old saying, If you can't say anything good,don't say anything.
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Cheers for pointing that out, got that one straight from Silverstone website. Oops. Nevermind hopefully a updated one appear soon.
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Cheers for pointing that out, got that one straight from Silverstone website. Oops. Nevermind hopefully a updated one appear soon.
Sent HSCC a email on Tuesday and i have the numbers
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Well that was a good days spectating, sum good racing in all the afternoon races, tho for once the FF1600 were spaced out at the front tho plenty going on in the midfield. The F2 race was nuts for the first few laps, the top 3 pritty much nose to tail and side by side, great .

The 2 main people to suffer were Dean Forward in the McLaren M8F, the oil pump drive belt snapped which seized the pump and meant a lap done with no oil , also Jamie Bradshaw dropped valves in his March 73A in the DBT qualifying just as he was starting to match Michael Lyons times.

One thing i did notice, was the total lack of spectators. I was sitting in woodcote stand for the Jaguar Challenge race and there was only 15 other people there.
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Enjoyed yesterday with some lovely tin on track.
A great pity we lost the 8F but nice to see the 717 out again.
F2 race was the pick, the rain shower certainly spiced up the Jag race given the amount of spinners at Brooklands/Luffield.
Agree about the lack of spectators, just double figures at Luffield terrace and driving around the circuit roads no traffic at all.

Looks like the sun is breaking through after rain this morning and plenty of Guards cars in the paddock.
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