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Old 15 Nov 2020, 12:11 (Ref:4016877)   #276
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Old 15 Nov 2020, 12:14 (Ref:4016883)   #277
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I still think he needs to beat 7 WDCs.
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Old 15 Nov 2020, 12:20 (Ref:4016885)   #278
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If you don't see the difference between Lewis and most of the other drivers on the grid after today's race.....well, I pity you really

No way was the Merc and it's inability to put heat into tyres the best car today, but one driver had the patience and the skill to dominate, the other finished 14th a lap down

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Old 15 Nov 2020, 12:42 (Ref:4016890)   #279
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In motor racing, the devil is in the detail. Obviously you like the result.

Never mind GOAT, is Hamilton better than Nigel Mansell?

The answer is possibly not that obvious.
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Old 15 Nov 2020, 12:44 (Ref:4016891)   #280
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Yes. He is better than Nigel Mansell. The devil is, indeed, in the details with that one.
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Old 15 Nov 2020, 12:50 (Ref:4016894)   #281
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I'd like to take your opinion on face value, but I can't atm.

Hamilton's had a better career. But that's doesn't make him the better driver.
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Old 15 Nov 2020, 12:54 (Ref:4016897)   #282
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Lewis is the complete package.

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You can't take my opinion on face value because you assume I'm a Lewis fan. The others here will tell you I'm far from it. I just know what I'm watching
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Old 15 Nov 2020, 13:34 (Ref:4016926)   #284
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Seems the thread has become a bit fickle. Yes, Hamilton's case is stronger after today but he was far from alone in performing out there and I think we have a lot of data to sift through regarding track conditions and car setup on tyres (see Stroll's calamitous second stint after an early race that made him look like a GOAT contender) before we all bite on whether he is the GOAT and all of that nonsense. Definitely one of the great drives of Formula One though.
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Old 15 Nov 2020, 13:57 (Ref:4016939)   #285
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Seems the thread has become a bit fickle. Yes, Hamilton's case is stronger after today but he was far from alone in performing out there and I think we have a lot of data to sift through regarding track conditions and car setup on tyres (see Stroll's calamitous second stint after an early race that made him look like a GOAT contender) before we all bite on whether he is the GOAT and all of that nonsense. Definitely one of the great drives of Formula One though.
there was some standout performances today. Perez, Vettel, Leclerc.....but on the same tyres, on the same track, afforded the same opportunity, without the best car for the conditions, Hamilton turned a 30 second deficit into a 30 second advantage in about 20 laps and finished the race on 50 lap old tyres a lap ahead of his teammate.

you dont need to sift through the data to see that it was an outstanding drive.
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Seems the thread has become a bit fickle. Yes, Hamilton's case is stronger after today but he was far from alone in performing out there and I think we have a lot of data to sift through regarding track conditions and car setup on tyres (see Stroll's calamitous second stint after an early race that made him look like a GOAT contender) before we all bite on whether he is the GOAT and all of that nonsense. Definitely one of the great drives of Formula One though.
Well he’s infinitely better then Max Verstappen that’s for sure. Once again he chokes.
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Well i still do not actually like him, but you have to admit that was a championship drive for sure, currently no one else on his level.
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In motor racing, the devil is in the detail. Obviously you like the result.

Never mind GOAT, is Hamilton better than Nigel Mansell?

The answer is possibly not that obvious.
You are kidding, right?
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In motor racing, the devil is in the detail. Obviously you like the result.

Never mind GOAT, is Hamilton better than Nigel Mansell?

The answer is possibly not that obvious.
As a massive Mansell fan, can I just say
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The real question is if he is better than David Coulthard.
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Only one thing to say and that goes to Toto. He's the greatest of this time. And based on today's performance who could argue?
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The real question is if he is better than David Coulthard.
Hamilton would be a better TV presenter than Coulthard!
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Hamilton would be a better TV presenter than Coulthard!
He might be a better driver but not sure he would be a good presenter, he has a habit of forcing his views on others and that does not go down with some people. Lets stick to Lewis driving and Coulthard doing the tv stuff
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Only one thing to say and that goes to Toto. He's the greatest of this time. And based on today's performance who could argue?
Yep. I know he's had plenty of money with which to create the best team, but he's done an incredible job. You only have to see his reactions when something (occasionally) goes wrong to see that the man is a winner, through and through.
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He might be a better driver but not sure he would be a good presenter, he has a habit of forcing his views on others and that does not go down with some people. Lets stick to Lewis driving and Coulthard doing the tv stuff
People needed with forceful views.
Ted is best on any coverage and he’s certainly not insipid like the Coulthard.
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Yep. I know he's had plenty of money with which to create the best team, but he's done an incredible job. You only have to see his reactions when something (occasionally) goes wrong to see that the man is a winner, through and through.

I think Peter was quoting Toto about Lewis, when asked on C4 by the presenter "Is Lewis the GOAT"....and Toto very sensibly (and correctly) made the "Greatest of this time" response......


Which isn't to say that Toto hasn't done a great job
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I think Peter was quoting Toto about Lewis, when asked on C4 by the presenter "Is Lewis the GOAT"....and Toto very sensibly (and correctly) made the "Greatest of this time" response......


Which isn't to say that Toto hasn't done a great job
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I think Peter was quoting Toto about Lewis, when asked on C4 by the presenter "Is Lewis the GOAT"....and Toto very sensibly (and correctly) made the "Greatest of this time" response......


Which isn't to say that Toto hasn't done a great job
Because F1 has changed so much over the years, I think to say he is greatest of this time, is the only realistic way of looking at it.
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