The 4th Manufacturer - Page 31

Mr Revhead · 13 Oct 2012, 00:37 (Ref:3150664)

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Originally Posted by FAS33

ok thanks, The Nissan engine looks awesome. and wins by looks itself!! .. it will have it ups and downs. but we already know it has been downtuned to join the series and produce power and torque outputs similar to Holdens/ford so that it could meet the requirements to join.

Lol no it hasn't. It starts of as a road car engine and UPGRADED to race

Mixer · 13 Oct 2012, 00:38 (Ref:3150665)

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Originally Posted by Mr Revhead

Lol no it hasn't. It starts of as a road car engine and UPGRADED to race

Actually I think they used the GT1 engine as a base?

Mr Revhead · 13 Oct 2012, 00:42 (Ref:3150667)

Do they, initial release about the engine said they started with the road car engine. Probably do for both! Not hard to get 600hp from a 5ltr quad cam.

Sideline, cracks me up the fan boys going on about how cool the GTR race car is. It doesn't use a single piece of the road cars drive line

bluesport · 13 Oct 2012, 06:53 (Ref:3150749)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

Superior and competitive are two very different things. This is essentially a parity formula, so OF COURSE if they turn up with superior engines they will be bought back to the field.

Anyway the conspiracy theories are getting a bit rich, I think you need to get a hobby and get out for some fresh air.

As for the "Holden political machine", if Ford hadn't coughed up 888, Ford would have won everything for the last 5 years. It is that simple. Apart from HRT winning Bathurst, nothing of value has been won by anybody not running 888 machinery for years now.

The results are becoming too predictable and the last thing that should happen is to have the two new manufacturers eternally running around mid-field and everyone pretending that everything is "hunky-dory". Let the new boys compete, see what happens and take action if they are too competitive.

I agree with your comment that Ford "coughed up 888".

FAS33 · 13 Oct 2012, 14:34 (Ref:3150921)

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Originally Posted by Mr Revhead

Lol no it hasn't. It starts of as a road car engine and UPGRADED to race

if your right their definalty isn't much left from the production one, and yup they use the same one for their GT-R in GT1 as Mixer said, and DOWNGRADED to be eligble to come inside..(rumour has it they smashed everyone else in GT1)

NISSAN FTW!

Mr Revhead · 13 Oct 2012, 19:27 (Ref:3151075)

Try google, its not the gt1 engine, that's a different development of it. The SC engine is a sleeved version of the one from the patrol and the Kelly's are developing it.
Like a lot of rumours fas, not true!

on_to_it · 13 Oct 2012, 21:01 (Ref:3151121)

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Originally Posted by Mr Revhead

The SC engine is a sleeved version of the one from the patrol and the Kelly's are developing it.

Since when did Patrols have V8 engines?

peckstar · 13 Oct 2012, 21:17 (Ref:3151133)

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Originally Posted by on_to_it

Since when did Patrols have V8 engines?

Since 2010

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_VK_engine#VK56VD

FAS33 · 13 Oct 2012, 23:32 (Ref:3151201)

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Originally Posted by Mr Revhead

Try google, its not the gt1 engine, that's a different development of it. The SC engine is a sleeved version of the one from the patrol and the Kelly's are developing it.
Like a lot of rumours fas, not true!

well ok your right. I must've read it wrong somewhere, rumours? that suped up engine helped take the GT-R to win the GT1 Championship last year. far from a rumour that one is lol

Mr Revhead · 14 Oct 2012, 00:33 (Ref:3151229)

They won the drivers champs, Aston Martin won the teams champs. The rules try and keep the cars close. It hardly smashed everyone else

don't let fanboism cloud the truth :P

FAS33 · 14 Oct 2012, 02:19 (Ref:3151258)

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Originally Posted by Mr Revhead

They won the drivers champs, Aston Martin won the teams champs. The rules try and keep the cars close. It hardly smashed everyone else

don't let fanboism cloud the truth :P

which makes no sense really cause it was the car that gave them their championship win aye.

no disrespect to the drivers..

dirtymacca · 14 Oct 2012, 04:48 (Ref:3151283)

[QUOTE=FAS33;3150921]if your right their definalty isn't much left from the production one, and yup they use the same one for their GT-R in GT1 as Mixer said, and DOWNGRADED to be eligble to come inside..(rumour has it they smashed everyone else in GT1)

GT-R is a V6 !... I thought this was a V8 series...

3.8L VR38DETT twin-turbo V6
The 2012 Nissan GT-R is powered by a twin-turbocharged 3.8-liter V6 engine that generates 530 hp and 448 lb-ft of torque.

Tourer · 14 Oct 2012, 04:51 (Ref:3151286)

[QUOTE=dirtymacca;3151283]

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Originally Posted by FAS33

if your right their definalty isn't much left from the production one, and yup they use the same one for their GT-R in GT1 as Mixer said, and DOWNGRADED to be eligble to come inside..(rumour has it they smashed everyone else in GT1)

GT-R is a V6 !... I thought this was a V8 series...

3.8L VR38DETT twin-turbo V6
The 2012 Nissan GT-R is powered by a twin-turbocharged 3.8-liter V6 engine that generates 530 hp and 448 lb-ft of torque.

But the GT1 GTR uses a V8 developed from the same road car engine that is being developed (differently) for V8 Supercars. The discussion has been about the engine used in GT1.

peckstar · 14 Oct 2012, 04:54 (Ref:3151287)

if they are only getting 600 hp out of the motor in its 5.6l format. how will they go getting 630hp out of it in a 5l format

Tourer · 14 Oct 2012, 05:00 (Ref:3151290)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

if they are only getting 600 hp out of the motor in its 5.6l format. how will they go getting 630hp out of it in a 5l format

Working hard. Don't forget that the rules governing each series are different which will help.

Mind you, there is a huge amount of experience, development and history in the current engine configurations so the KR & SBR crews have a big hill to climb.

No doubt that they'll get there but it'll be far from easy - but then, everyone would be doing it if it was easy and where's the satisfaction in that?

FAS33 · 14 Oct 2012, 09:55 (Ref:3151461)

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Originally Posted by dirtymacca

GT-R is a V6 !... I thought this was a V8 series...

3.8L VR38DETT twin-turbo V6
The 2012 Nissan GT-R is powered by a twin-turbocharged 3.8-liter V6 engine that generates 530 hp and 448 lb-ft of torque.

Yeah what Tourer said, pretty funny cause they dont run a stock V8 donk in the Altima lol. there isn't much left from the production cars to the racecars you see on TV these days (except the APCC). And peckstar posted the engine specs of that one they use in GT1.

St00ge · 15 Oct 2012, 05:03 (Ref:3151996)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

if they are only getting 600 hp out of the motor in its 5.6l format. how will they go getting 630hp out of it in a 5l format

it is ok, they have 4 valves

on_to_it · 15 Oct 2012, 09:26 (Ref:3152064)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

Since 2010

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_VK_engine#VK56VD

Thanks for that. I don't think we've ever had a V8 Patrol in the Southern hemisphere, other than maybe a private import. But I could be wrong eh Peck!

St00ge · 15 Oct 2012, 09:29 (Ref:3152066)

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Originally Posted by on_to_it

Thanks for that. I don't think we've ever had a V8 Patrol in the Southern hemisphere, other than maybe a private import. But I could be wrong eh Peck!

http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor...912-25rpn.html

Middle East Spec

no diesel as well..

peckstar · 15 Oct 2012, 09:54 (Ref:3152083)

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Originally Posted by on_to_it

Thanks for that. I don't think we've ever had a V8 Patrol in the Southern hemisphere, other than maybe a private import. But I could be wrong eh Peck!

sorry what was that

peckstar · 17 Oct 2012, 00:27 (Ref:3153130)

SBR's first car

Tourer · 17 Oct 2012, 07:27 (Ref:3153210)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

SBR's first car

Funny looking Benz!

rik · 17 Oct 2012, 12:33 (Ref:3153337)

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Originally Posted by Tourer

Funny looking Benz!

At least they have a COTF on the track, unlike KR, DJR, GRM, BJR who are building their own.

Tourer · 17 Oct 2012, 20:30 (Ref:3153541)

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Originally Posted by rik

At least they have a COTF on the track, unlike KR, DJR, GRM, BJR who are building their own.

Totally agree - I was being facetious. Running the COTF now with the aero package a known quantity, current engine and all that will give SBR a really good baseline for developing the Benz.

Smart move from a team who are most definitely racers to their core.

Umai Naa · 17 Oct 2012, 21:49 (Ref:3153581)

Agreed.

Getting it on the track as soon as possible is the only way to go.

The Stones are definately passionate about their racing. They'd re-mortgage their houses to get the cars out there.

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