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The never-ending Toyota thread which was started with news of the DOME test mule is becoming hard to follow. It think just like the R18, the TS040 deserves its own thread.
A good place to start is with news that Alex Wurz has headed to Cologne for a seat fitting: Quote:
We know the car will turn its first laps in an as yet unannounced location - but I'd put good money on it being Ricard, if you're bothered by such details. We also know Mike Conway has joined the driving team as a reserve driver, likely meaning he will replace Kaz Nakajima when he's off racing in other series - and maybe, just maybe, he could be one third of the final car in a three-pronged Toyota assault at La Sarthe. For some reason, I've got it in my head that Toyota are planning to run a V8 with greater capacity? I can't find the source after a good long search. I'm very much looking forward to seeing what Toyota can bring to the table. The Porsche 919 is the beauty, the R18 is the beast. What will the TS040 be? |
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If they nail the aero, it will be The Winner! Aero is going to be almost as key as all the new energy management, as aero plays huge role when it comes to efficiency. The new Audi and the Porsche do not strike with anything radically new for aero efficiency, which could be of great importance if Toyota pulls out some out of the box thinking and comes up with a car that is significantly more aero efficient. I hope they do something dramatically different, it will be so interesting to see what's coming.
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That said, the R18 and especially the 919 are very basic test cars. If either Audi or Porsche have a trick - or tricks - up their sleeves, they're unlikely to show them yet. |
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Think the TS030 had one of if not the best aero packages of the recent lmp's in terms of drag vs. downforce. It was their 2nd strongest aspect of the car. The first being the hybrid. The windtunnel at TMG is probably the best in the business. I know I am a Toyota fan, but these aren't my words.
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If they could gather the right budget and have a bit of luck they could match Audi, if not passed them ... "My" Porsche 919 is in there learning year so a podium could be possible, but next year they will go for the WIN... ![]() |
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Well, Ferrari used their wind tunnel for the 2013 F1 car, which is criticized heavily by Alonso.:-( Just kidding. I too hope to see some close racing of three rather than race of pit strategy.
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Looks like Toyota plans to keep their cards close to their chest by not revealing the car until March.
Smart move, if it works out. It probably won't, even Porsche couldn't keep spy shots from appearing. |
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The chances are good for some innovative aero to be used. Toyota in F1 had used a variety of innovative aero designs on their cars over the years. Quote:
![]() Toyota is a master of secrecy. If they use all their willpower to prevent any leaks, then believe me, you will not see a single leak. If however Toyota "lets" some leaks occur, then certainly spy shots will leak out. By that, I mean Toyota is well aware of on which race tracks is it physically and practically possible to take spy shots. They will only test on such race tracks once they are ready for the possibility of leaked shots to come out. Otherwise they'd be doing most of their track testing on secretive private tracks, like the Fuji track they own themselves, or the numerous top secret private test tracks they own in Japan. On those tracks it is physically impossible to get any spy shots without triggering alarms and security personnel. Yes, I believe this was mentioned before. However "rollout" and "official unveil" may be 2 different things. The "rollout" could be the unofficial testing rollout, and we may not see official images of the final car until March. |
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was it not that Ferrari had issue with calibration, I also doubt heavily that Ferrari wanted help from Toyota as that might let them see the car. I imagine Toyota have no issue with calibrating it with their own wind tunnel.
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Where has March been mentioned?
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Was posted by the toyota twitter account
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Will this car be testing before being revealed in March? Because there is always the possibility of spy shots!
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They're seat fitting at the moment. Which probably means at least one tub is ready. I don't expect it to take 3 months to get the rest of the bodywork ready. I guess they'll go testing in January.
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It has been said long ago that the rollout is in early January.
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I am still scratching my head to understand how the provision of Article 3.4 of the LMP1 Technical Regulations is supposed to be construed:
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I'll go to Le Mans in June hoping for a Toyota victory again. I won't go there expecting one.
The lateness of the programme again is a concern. I don't see the later unveil as clever tactics - ideally they'd be out there testing. |
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Reading the recent posts in the R18 thread about the complexity of the Audi hybrid systems makes me wonder if the relative simplicity of the Toyota system might play to their advantage over the course of the season.
Audi being Audi and Porsche being Porsche I'm sure their hybrid tech will be well designed and tested but so much of it is so new that there will surely be some gremlins creeping in. These new regs must be the biggest tech shake up since, erm, some time ago. |
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Rumour has it that a Porsche 919 burnt down during testing, so there's your Gremlins (Mogwai) ! Don't feed them after midnight!
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Sorry if I confused anyone. I thought the unveiling of the car was January. Thats the testing schedule. The unveiling should be the 'final car' so they can take part in the official tests and present their package to the rule makers.
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